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Author Topic: [Closed] [DGIV BLOG] News about developpment of DGIV (part 2)  (Read 37502 times)

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Offline MattNW

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Reply #25 - 23 April 2007, 02:27:35
Thanks for me also. I've been looking for a good word processing program and didn't want another M$ product either. Some
people swear by Open Office but I couldn't get it work well. Seemed to be stability problems on my machine. I have some
documents that Word Pad can't read that I had to transfer to my PDA and convert to .rtf. Abisource will eliminate that step.
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Reply #26 - 23 April 2007, 15:52:38
Ok switched to open office...

Abyword Seem buggy with image, changing one image's position on the page 4 messed completely the 3 page
before... I mean not my error, when I say messed all image "warped" on other page in random order , even clicking on one image duplicated it at infinite at random place (and sometime not). A total unpredictible mess.

What's wrong with text editor ? :worry: Either they fill your HD either they are all buggy with images and presentation.

At least seem open office work...

Dan



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Reply #27 - 23 April 2007, 16:25:23
Hopefully, I've been waiting !
It's very pleasant to see you angry !
Now you can imagine how it's hard to be a beta tester !  :lol:


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Reply #28 - 23 April 2007, 16:44:04
Quote
picto a écrit:
It's very pleasant to see you angry !


Ah ? :doubt:

Quote
picto a écrit:
Now you can imagine how it's hard to be a beta tester !  :lol:


Seem I know the job, remember I'm the first tester of my apps ;)
And I never underestimated the work, a good beta tester is a gold ressource.

Okay ! open office is realy the way to go, no bugs, all work flawlessly, a very nice text editor
despit is huge size. He can even export in PDF so no third party exporter required.

Well done job :top:

http://www.openoffice.org/index.html

in french (pour les sapins content-que-les-autres-soient-dans-la-mouise)

http://fr.openoffice.org/


Dan



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Offline DanSteph

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Reply #29 - 24 April 2007, 16:29:48
12 pages of doc so far... once done release of beta 9, correction with peoples that want to help
gold release if all is well with beta 9 and final release.

The "word" of open office is really great, the image show PDF converted directly by open office. :applause:



Dan



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Reply #30 - 24 April 2007, 17:39:44
Yes, OpenOffice is great. I use it instead of Office myself. I volunteered to help with the documentation originally, so I'll
volunteer again.


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Reply #31 - 24 April 2007, 18:19:37
Thanks for offer, I'll release the beta 9 once doc completed then we'll see how we can
organize the corrections...

:beer:

Dan


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Reply #32 - 24 April 2007, 20:59:28
I hope you are not fed up with me, but.... I volunteer, too - again ;)

To convert DOCs (and other documents) I use PrimoPDF (http://www.primopdf.com/) - a free tool that works as a... printer. You
just print whatever you want to convert into PDF and the result is saved into a nice PDF file. You can, of course, define
various parameters, such as privacy settings, passwords and the like. It is at least worth trying.


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Reply #33 - 25 April 2007, 02:34:17
YESSS !!! :top:

New G calculation, vector taken in account, vertical negative G have more impact
on crew aboard for example. Also I think there will no be anymore "G" bug at high
time acceleration. At the time the ancestore of DGIV (DGII) went out 4 years ago there
was no "GetForce" function in Orbiter, so I calculated G with a simple "delta position"
(you displace 10 m/s then 20 m/s= 10 m/s acceleration=G)

This was accurate but unfortunately Orbiter "jump" from time to time and this caused
instant huge acceleration="G bug"

Now with GetForce and GetWeight new function I have an accurate G with vector.


The total G and vertical G will be displayed
in reentry display, Here, I was climbing at 70°
and pushed the stick= negative vertical G
(but we still have a "z" G this is why the total is bigger)



Also accurate G due to gravity on ground:

Earth:



Moon:



Dan



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Reply #34 - 25 April 2007, 02:57:30
Great news, Dan!

This G force display will be really useful!

:applause:

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Reply #35 - 25 April 2007, 03:27:05
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Pagir wrote:
Great news, Dan!

This G force display will be really useful!

:applause:

Pagir

:applause:


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Reply #36 - 25 April 2007, 03:38:27
:top: ill drink to that :drink:


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Reply #37 - 25 April 2007, 04:17:14
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DanSteph wrote:
Okay ! open office is realy the way to go, no bugs, all work flawlessly, a very nice text editor
despit is huge size. He can even export in PDF so no third party exporter required.

I agree.  The OpenOffice suite has really come a long way.  One of my favorite groups of applications available in
Linux, and also glad that it is available for Windows.  Hard to adjust to sometimes, as the company I work for uses
Microsoft products, but definitely worth the download.  

If I could just get Orbiter to run in Linux.... :wonder:

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Reply #38 - 25 April 2007, 08:50:45
Yaaay!! This version of Open Office actually works on my computer. I tried it some time ago when I had Windows 98 and it kept
crashing and locking up my PC. Never could get it to work.

I hope Beta 9 doesn't come out in the next two days. I just got registered to attend Severe Weather Spotting school. I'm
gonna be chasing storms this summer so if anyone sees me blow by just wave. :lol:


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Reply #39 - 25 April 2007, 09:10:48
Hi Dan!

Just a short remark regarding units on the reentry display.
- Speeds are measured in km/h and not kmh... for kilometers PER hour... per is "divided by" thus the "/"...
- Pressures are measures in Pa (Pascal) or kPa (kilo-Pascal)... but not Kpa (K -> k and pa -> Pa as it's the name of a
guy)
- For temperatures, the small readouts should be either "15°C (with a ° and a C in CAPS... C for Celsius) or 288K
(without the ° and K for Kelvin) as absolute temperature.
Sorry for being a (boring?) teacher in mechanics... but as Orbiter can be an amazing educational tool, I think it's better if it can be precise in most scientific aspects!



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Reply #40 - 25 April 2007, 14:16:21
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Pierre a écrit:
Hi Dan!
Just a short remark regarding units on the reentry display.
Sorry for being a (boring?) teacher in mechanics... but as Orbiter can be an amazing educational tool, I think it's
better if it can be precise in most scientific aspects!

Done,



Sorry the "°C" will remain lower case for space concern. a "C" would take way to much place.

Dan


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Reply #41 - 25 April 2007, 15:36:06
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Sorry the "°C" will remain lower case for space concern. a "C" would take way to much place.

You could just remove the "c" from each and specify "Celsius" in general somewhere else, implying that all temperatures are
in Celsius.  

The bank angle could also be confused if you did that, but I think that since it says "Bank set:" that users could figure it out.


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Reply #42 - 25 April 2007, 16:09:13
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You could just remove the "c" from each and specify "Celsius" in general somewhere else,


Uhm... were ? there is absolutely no room on this display.
No it's perfect like that. Clear and simple.

Or maybe peoples preffer explode because they confused
°C and K just because "°c" was not STRICLY correct ? :doubt:

That would be fly killing with nuclear weapon ... ;) (enc... de mouche en francais ;)

Dan



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Reply #43 - 25 April 2007, 16:18:23
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Uhm... were ? there is absolutely no room on this display.
No it's perfect like that. Clear and simple.

Like in the documentation. ;)  

It was just a suggestion to make the display clearer and simpler.


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Reply #44 - 25 April 2007, 16:31:34
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Like in the documentation. ;)  


That 15% peoples read ? :badsmile:

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It was just a suggestion to make the display clearer and simpler.


No problems with that, I only think that the display is clear and simple enough now.

Dan



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Reply #45 - 27 April 2007, 01:15:23
I worked at least two month on the symphony IV base
(see: http://orbiter.dansteph.com/forum/index.php?topic=11907.msg183962#msg183962 )

Unfortunately I have no time to finish this project, howewer I thought it would be cool
to take some code of it and do a smaller base with only somes features
this would take only two three days and add a base in the "DGIV world"
with cool missions planned.

I mean, when you have a vehicle, it's more cool if you have somewhere to go
and something to do.

So introducing the reduced version of Symphony IV ....

Prelude II :badsmile:

-Animated solar panel (follow the sun)
-Working strob light on pad (automatic, change when landed or aproaching)
-Animated Airlock door
-Compatible Ummu (can contain up to 40 crew)
-No virtual cockpit but a "camera view" with ambiance sound, text menu to manage crew, light, airlock door
-Can be spawned everywhere in solar system with Sceanrio editor,
on big planet you have a flat pad and on asteroid or smaller you have a "off
shore petrol style pad" (don't know the name)
-Will be bundled with DGIV installation, so we can propose some cool missions.
-Skin abilities.

This is a "one" day work, maybe not the better design on world but for sure better
than the Orbiter's default bases.

The Prelude II station on Phobos:




Cold place but nice view:




Airlock opening please:




By night, pad light all on just for demo (they blink in sequence and change when you land)




Some more hours for the menu and it will be finished.

Dan



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Reply #46 - 27 April 2007, 02:19:24
Dan, If I haven't said it before (though I probably have), I'm gonna say it agian: You are one frickin' Genius.  The idea
of paring the new Prelude II base with the DGIV is cool, I have been waiting for symphoney base for a while, now.  
Keep it up, and 3 cheers for the DGIV and Prelude II: Partners for the Future of Space.


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Reply #47 - 27 April 2007, 02:25:17
Awesome!

"Off shore petrol style pad" would be an oil rig or oil platform.  



Will Prelude II have the automated AI ships?


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Reply #48 - 27 April 2007, 02:32:11
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Will Prelude II have the automated AI ships?

No and not the 3d radar also, the IA would take at least one month more to be up.

Dan


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Reply #49 - 27 April 2007, 03:02:48
Will it have skins? It would be a bit out of place if it said "ALEPH 05 - PHOBOS" when it's on Ganymede. :pfff:


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