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Offline G-LOC

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04 June 2003, 00:38:36
Hi!

I have seen a new Painting for the DG here :

http://library.avsim.net/sendfile.php?SendImage=30533

Anyone knows if this is available for download?   

EDIT: Hotlinking doesnt work...copy and paste the link.



Post Edited (06-04-03 00:41)


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Reply #1 - 04 June 2003, 09:12:53
Bad link :badlink: AVSIM don't like external link as said
you must copy/past and refresh the browser.
If this texture is available you may owerwrite the
DGII's one with the blue one without problem....

replace the following :

texture/dgmkII_3.dds  (low res DGII texture)
texture2/dgmkII_3.dds  (high res DGII texture)

with the dgmk_3.dds given in the new paint pack
(you must rename them)

if the repaint pack contain only low res (only texture/dgmk_3.dds )
you must delete the "texture2/dgmkII_3.dds" while high res texture
have an higher priority over low res.

I wonder if my explaination are clear  ? :wonder:

I must say I'm sick like a horse (cold wind got me)
so I'm brain fried :)

Dan


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Reply #2 - 04 June 2003, 16:32:54
Hey, is there any direct editor for .dds files? :wonder:

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Reply #3 - 04 June 2003, 19:17:45
There is a plug in that allow Photoshop to  import/export
dds file... I suceeded to import and modify file but was unable
to export them in a convenient format that orbiter could use
(format seemed correct but Orbiter didn't liked it)

But you can export in bmp and use the dtex utility

Dan


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Reply #4 - 04 June 2003, 22:39:26
Hmm, so you think the guy who made this Asteroid Addon, as seen in the link, made the painting himself
and didnt download it elsewhere?


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Reply #5 - 05 June 2003, 04:38:43
Don't know if this texture is available but modifying
a dds is an easy job I'm surprised there is not much repaint
available.

Dan


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Reply #6 - 05 June 2003, 08:20:00
Hope you don't mind me pursuing this one with you a bit, Dan (no worries, I'm pretty sure this
won't turn into a 600-post thread like the last time I asked you a question!) :)

I downloaded the dds plugin for Photoshop and opened up one of the DG2's high-res textures.  
First of all, Photoshop says something about Mipmaps, and mentions that I must select "Use
Existing Mip Maps" in the save dialog.  But when I go to save, just to see if the choice is there,
there's no such item.  Rowf?

Also, when I open a dds file, I see a large version of the textures, plus what appear to be copies
that are scaled smaller and smaller.  Do I have to modify each of those textures, or just the
biggest one?  Now that I ask that question, I'm thinking I have to modify each one, don't I *sigh*

Dave


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Reply #7 - 05 June 2003, 08:41:09
Crap....I see what you mean now, Dan.  I got to the point where it asked about the
Mipmaps...that whole complex section after choosing a filename.  I tried a few different ways, and
it doesn't seem to like it in Orbiter--the wing texture I modified is missing.  Hmmmm!  One would
think it would work, somehow, some way....

Dave


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Reply #8 - 05 June 2003, 08:56:30
psssst....by the way....what's a dtex utility? :)  If you point me to it, I'll figure it out....

Thanks,
Dave


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Reply #9 - 05 June 2003, 09:01:04
LOL arrrgggghhhh....never mind, I found an old post on the "official" Orbiter forum that explains
this!!!!

*whistle* don't mind me, I get punchy at 1am....I'll play around with this for a few hours and then
we'll see how my DG2 turns out at 4am.  *shudder*

Dave


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Reply #10 - 05 June 2003, 09:37:43
YESSS!!!!!

Success!!  The "Canuck 1" flies!

Whew....now I lay me down to sleep....

--Dave


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Reply #11 - 05 June 2003, 12:28:51
Hey Michelle,

As a fellow Canadian, I need your help :)  Please help name the new Canadian Delta Glider I've
repainted!  "Canuck 1" was the test craft, and now I'm going to go full out and do a heavy
repaint.  But I need a name.  I was thinking of "The Gretzky" but I don't think that'd work :)  Any
suggestions?

Of course, anyone else is welcome to suggest too....

Dave


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Reply #12 - 05 June 2003, 14:34:58
Hi Dave

I think I may have a contender for you. After I read your post this morning I decided to give this
some thought. So as I'm taking my shower this morning, I came up with:

COBA <--- Canadian Orbital Blue Arrow

I figure with Dan's permition you could substitute G-SNDO on the wing with G-COBA or C-OBA2 or
just COBA.

What do you think?

Michelle

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Reply #13 - 05 June 2003, 17:17:54
lol....

well, Michelle, I see a couple of problems with that....first off, I'm not going to actually repaint the
spacecraft blue =D  I'll leave it red and white--Canadian colours! :)

Second of all, I'd like to actually name it, not acronym it.  I thought of acronyming it; but a ship is
a "she", and a she deserves a real name.

Dave

p.s. also I think Canadian aerospace hasn't done particularly well yet with anything
named "Arrow", eh? ;)


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Reply #14 - 05 June 2003, 19:51:44
canadave Wrote Date:   06-05-03 09:37
Hope you don't mind me pursuing this one with you a bit, Dan.....


Huuu ? (cough ! cough !)  what's happening.. revolution ?   <--- (old man voice)
sniiirfllll....
cryeeeek <--- bone noise of the old man getting out of his bed

Oh hem... I was in bed the whole day (cough ! cough !)
sorry... but you did seem to find the solution ? :)

I find COBA not to bad heuu Canuck sound less good from my point ;)

Oh well I suppose I may just return to bed... damn virus (cough ! cough !)

Dan

PS:
-don't forget to modify both the low-res and the high-res texture.
-if you still haven't found, MIPMAP is a technique where the reduced
image are contained already in the dds texture , so when you go far from the vessel the texture simply switch without expensing calculus to reduce the texture himself (very time consumming)
for example the dds texture may contain already:
512x512 <- original
256x256
128x128
64x64
32x32
16x16 etc etc



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Reply #15 - 05 June 2003, 21:28:34
ehhhh go back to bed, old man ;)  I feel your pain.  I'm still feeling some lasting effects of some
bronchitis I had a few weeks ago.  Then again you could be experiencing the secret US
government "sick bug" they've released in France just to get back at all of you.  You damned
Frenchmen, wanting peace and such!

Thanks for the mipmap explanation!!  I'm good with computers but pretty much a newbie when it
comes to DirectX and texturing and meshes and stuff like that.  J'comprende!

You don't like Canuck, eh?  Interesting.  I don't know about COBA though.  Like I say, it sounds
like a disorder, like SARS or whatnot.  Chronic Orbiter Brain Atrophy, maybe? :)

I need a name.  "Dauntless", "Excelsior", something like that!  Don't make me call it the "Good
Ship Lollipop"! :0

Dave


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Reply #16 - 05 June 2003, 21:35:10
Hey, i use Paint Shop Pro with the Photohop Plugin...saved my file with the default parameters already
set in this big options window, but it didnt work. What options do i have to use? I wanna paint some
Wipeout 2097 Images on my Wings ; or maybe a spraypaint of a hot chick hehe...



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Reply #17 - 05 June 2003, 21:59:20
G-LOC, if you figure it out, please post the options you used.  I tried about every combination of
options with Photoshop and the dds plugin, but it wouldn't work in Orbiter.  I finally got around it
by using dxtex from the Orbiter SDK as Dan suggested.

Cheers,
Dave


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Reply #18 - 05 June 2003, 23:02:16
Dave wrote:
Chronic Orbiter Brain Atrophy, maybe?

LOL LOL :)
I thought I had a bronchitis but Its perhaps a COBA ? :)

You don't like Canuck, eh? Interesting. I don't know about COBA though.

Canuck make me think at "Canule" which is a medical thing for heuu well
they are children reading ?  :)

Anyway its your choice dear friend I don't want to interfere ;)

Dan
"Returning in peace coughing in it's bed"


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Reply #19 - 05 June 2003, 23:55:25
Hmm it says it cant write the alpha uhh something because the file is too big...the thing which is clear
that you must use the existing mip-maps-why - idont know ...maybe i should read the manual provided with
this zip from nvidia.


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Reply #20 - 06 June 2003, 00:25:24
I used the dxtex utility, and now I have two Manga chicks on my wings ;)


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Reply #21 - 06 June 2003, 01:27:20
Wow :)

"Chronic Orbiter Brain Atrophy"

LMAO :)

Good one!

Hmmm... lets see....

Enterprise
Atlantis
Eagle
I know... I know... Um... how about.......... {Canucktica} <-- LOL :)

Or on a more sensible note. how about *Arcadia* <<--- But if published please insert credit for
that one. I use it all the time for various applications. like in Earth and beyond It was my ships
name, when making a city in sim city 3000 it's the name of the city I build etc...

Oh and G-LOC "I have two Manga chicks on my wings".... uh huh... Dare I ask their attire? lol ;)

Michelle

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Reply #22 - 06 June 2003, 03:34:32
Michelle, the one on the left Wing is only a face, and the right one has a skirt on...tss tss i didnt
write "hentai"...hey send a photo from you and youll be the first real person on my wings ;)


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Reply #23 - 06 June 2003, 03:56:41
By the way: I will go on Therapy the next 2 months (because of extraterrestrial Experiences with LSD). So
I wish you all happy Spaceflights..ill be at Home at Weekends and maybe look in here...
No worry, this will be fun. Cooking, making sports, group discussions with the other People...Im really
looking forward to it.


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Reply #24 - 06 June 2003, 16:31:49
Dan: "Canule"????????  What the hell is that???  Sounds evil.

Michelle: Now, maybe if we call it "Battlestar Canucktica", you've got a deal! ;)  Arcadia is pretty
good (best so far, at any rate).  But I'm looking for something really really symbolic, somehow.  I'll
know it when I see it (can you tell I have an artist's temperament)???

G-LOC: Manga chicks?? lol  you've started the wings down a slippery road, there, bud.  Actually,
you make me think that there's a whole avenue of advertising on the wings.  Maybe I could sell
the rights to the wings to McDonalds, put golden arches on them, and call the ship a "McGlider"!

Cheers,
Dave