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Offline DanSteph

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09 January 2004, 03:11:37
Could you test my future Orbiter new site looking here:
http://orbiter.dansteph.com EDITED: site now on-line so I changed the link

and give your advice how it work for you (any problem ?)
and if you like it better than my current version

(forum section and screenshot buton disabled for now)

Many thanks

Dan


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Reply #1 - 09 January 2004, 03:25:42
Well... bump :)


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Reply #2 - 09 January 2004, 04:34:10
just added a "404" catch
try this wrong file:
http://orbiter.dansteph.com/download/whatewer_is_wrong.zip  EDITED: site updated so I changed the link

Dan


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Reply #3 - 09 January 2004, 08:57:18
Looks good, but dangit, work on the DGII first! :D


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Reply #4 - 09 January 2004, 08:57:29
I would suggest another font for the graphical menus and the headline...
Such as Zekton or anything in that future style...
I think this would add kind of style to it :)
Besides that I think that the page is good work.

*webdesigning greetings* from germany,

Chris...


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Reply #5 - 09 January 2004, 17:46:16
Very nice, I like it.

That 404 message background is great as well.

~Tony



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Reply #6 - 09 January 2004, 19:00:34
Very slick & engaging.  
Of course, the current interface has a simple elegance as well  (I like the original title font for
'Dans Orbiter Page').  ...Where it was challenging and distant, it's now engrossing and inviting.  
(i'm sure that translates well :))

I would suggest that the menu buttons could align/mesh with the graphic a little smoother, and
that the title be "Add-ons for Orbiter", since there is more than just one.  ...I keep wondering
when that new *Secret* project might finally be announced.  Anyone else remember that tease,
way back when?


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Reply #7 - 09 January 2004, 21:08:32
Well to be honest I liked your old web design very much. But Its nice to have a fresh look, so the
new design is great. For a while now I have been thinking of changing up my own web design on
eharm.net.

Anyway I do like the looks of your pages. Ah... let's see..do I have anything constructive to add?
Well I like to see plenty of white space on web pages. This takes away to much buisiness that
most pages have. Your pages have always had plenty of white space and still do. So I find them
easy on the eyes and easy to read. The new forum tables wrap completly to the edge losing white
space there though.

Your friend,
Gene


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Reply #8 - 09 January 2004, 21:11:29
I will continue change some things... the colour are a bit flashy perhaps ? :)

reekchaa:
About the "secret":  the guy involved in this project stopped any work on it
(it was a new model) so no more "secret" project. :sad:

Anyways there is still a lot of work to do with the current project
and while I'm already working 110% of my time I'm glad the guy
stopped otherwise it would have been 200% :)

Dan


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Reply #9 - 09 January 2004, 21:48:53
Gene,

Perhaps you tried during one of my test ? does the forum still wrap wrong ?
or perhaps you are on low resolution ?

Dang I'm still not satisfied with the forum colour, either it's too flashy
either it's a bit too washed. How does it look for you ?

Dan


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Reply #10 - 09 January 2004, 23:54:49
Really like the new design Dan! It is much fresher!


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Reply #11 - 10 January 2004, 01:02:08
Thanks David :)


You can try the screenshot section it's up now...
I hope it will be appealing for new users

Dan


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Reply #12 - 10 January 2004, 02:00:14

 Looks great to me, Boss!  Bright but professional.  Page top looks nice too.  :)

        Christopher


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Reply #13 - 10 January 2004, 14:24:13
My deal is that I never surf full screen. I like to have many windows open at once. So the many smaller windows force a horizontal scroll bar. That's normal, nothing you can do about that. I'll just stretch my windows until the scroll bar disapears.

Everything is wrapping correctly and looking good on a standard 17" monitor @ 1024x768. Uhmm..."standard 17" monitor"...can I say that anymore?

Gene


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Reply #14 - 10 January 2004, 14:42:36
Well I'm on a 19'' 1280x1024 but I often test on 1024x768
and even in 640x480 (the resolution where one icon take the
whole screen :)

The only way to make it always look the same is to make the page
in 640x480 but then the site take 1/4 of my screen so
I took a midle: 800 width

I just made some w3c validation test... :grrr:
they say that "topmargin" value aren't correct in "body" tag
but without this all look wrong and there is no way I know
to make your <body> glue to the side.

Who thrust ? IE and netscape (95% of user) or W3c ?

Anyone with Opera and/or netscape to give a feedback?

Dan


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Reply #15 - 10 January 2004, 15:15:52
I gave up trying to please those that have small moniters and low res settings. You can go batty trying to make it all work.

However I do understand the elderly wanting to use low res settings and have everything appear larger. So what to do? Well I suggest setting for 95% of users. Then leave open IE settings to be adjusted by user. Therefore I never fix any text sizes that can't be changed by the users browser.

http://www.eharm.net/links/page_guidlines/page_guidlines.html

O.K. I just tested your page with Mozilla Firebird.
The Link Bar is shifted to the right slightly. This make the bar a tad off the frame and into the white space. I suggest you don't waste too much time on this if any. Forum tables wrap well in Mozilla.

Gene



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Reply #16 - 10 January 2004, 15:29:51
Hey Dan,

In responding to this post I notice that my link to "Flash intro by Mcavin" didn't work. Which lead me to see you removed it from your page with this new design. What's the scoop?

Gene


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Reply #17 - 10 January 2004, 17:55:41
The link was changed but month ago (if not years) :wonder:

here is it again: http://orbiter.dansteph.com/download/intro/Orbiter.html


Dan


Chris

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Reply #18 - 10 January 2004, 22:02:55
Hi Dan,

just wondering about the contact link.
Why do you use a seperate window.
Make the menu link loke that <a href="mailto:daniel@dansteph.com">xxxBUTTONxxx</a> and it
will work without a seperate window :)


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Reply #19 - 11 January 2004, 03:45:23
antispam reason.

Spammer robot just scan the page and search for anything
with a  @ sign.

But it's true it's not very elegant, I may change it.
Anyway I bet it's not too annoying a very few part
of the visitor write to me ;)

Dan


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Reply #20 - 11 January 2004, 12:51:12
works Perfect with Opera Version 7.11


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Reply #21 - 12 January 2004, 03:26:36
Opera, IE, Netscape It think the major part of visitor will not have problem.
Notice that I had to do a workaround for netscape, it is detected and the code
is dynamically changed just for it.

Crap: I tried some html and css validation w3c service, funny things one of them even started
to complaint about <br> tag that must be "closed" (</br> ??) and some others funny things.
That and the fact that ALL those validation site have an absolute UGLY design make me
think that I don't have to care about them too much. Anyway I got a very few report of error
(stuff not ***agreed*** in html 4.0 but that 95% of browser support since a long time he he :)
... crap !

Thanks for feedback

Dan


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Reply #22 - 12 January 2004, 04:24:35
I like it. It appears to be clean. It also is more vivid, more pleasing to the eyes.


Prandini

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Reply #23 - 13 January 2004, 01:12:21
Advice: No download link for DGII in DOWNLOAD section

Fix it if you want, for a better site maybe ;)

[]'s


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Reply #24 - 13 January 2004, 05:01:43
Will come with even a special download page when the next DGII
will be completed ;)

Dan

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