Ingress a dead astronaut?

[Dvo]

I had a dreadful accident with the turbopack on the lunar surface and now I have the following question.  Is it
possible to ingress a "DEAD!" UMMU to the DGIV?  I have found they can be grappled by another UMMU by either
hand or back grapples.  But no luck getting them into the airlock.  Any suggestions?  THX.

Dvo

[FetDaniel]

Dvo wrote:
I had a dreadful accident with the turbopack on the lunar surface and now I have the following question.  Is it
possible to ingress a "DEAD!" UMMU to the DGIV?  I have found they can be grappled by another
UMMU by either
hand or back grapples.  But no luck getting them into the airlock.  Any suggestions?  THX.

Dvo

I'm just guessing here, but since ingress must be done with the said dead UMMU in focus, it is impossible. I think its
controls are disabled?

Daniel

[Dvo]

FetDaniel wrote:

I'm just guessing here, but since ingress must be done with the said dead UMMU in focus, it is impossible. I think its
controls are disabled?

Daniel

That seems to be the case.  Shouldn't a rescue vehicle be able to recover dead or incapacitated astronauts?  We
can't just leave them there on the moon or orbiting Ganymede or wherever.  Maybe for UMMU v1.1?

Dvo

[DanSteph]

I must admit that carrying dead bodies wasn't listed in my list of
"fun things to do" but it's an intteresting idea anyway

I think it's possible to make a Ummu a cargo for bay... see SDK.

Dan

[R Groszewski]

How about as soon as a Ummu dies, it becomes a cargo object. That way it can be returned to earth for a proper
burial. "Doo-Do-Dooooo, Do- Dooo-Doooooo--All rise for the burial of Captian Farlind and his crew!"

[Dvo]

DanSteph wrote:
I must admit that carrying dead bodies wasn't listed in my list of
"fun things to do" but it's an intteresting idea anyway

I think it's possible to make a Ummu a cargo for bay... see SDK.

Dan

You're right, Dan, it's not fun at all.  But space travel is very hazardous and sometimes astronauts are killed in the line
of duty.  

Is it possible for a DEAD! UMMU to have an "E" airlock command?
Is it possible for a UMMU to ingress a DEAD! UMMU?
Is it possible for the DGIV to "ingest" a UMMU or DEAD! UMMU

I am not a programmer.  I remember seeing in the beta version forums how often a tester's seemingly
straightforward suggestion would translate to thousands of lines of additional code.  If this could be done simply
would you consider releasing a v1.1 to add small improvements like this?

In the meantime I will use the SDK to try to develop a human coffin cargo.  My first add on?  Is this morbid?  If anyone
has any suggestions let me know.  How many UMMU's do you think could fit in a cargo module?

Dvo

edit: remove inop smiley



Post Edited ( 06-08-07 06:28 )

[Quick_Nick]

DanSteph wrote:
I must admit that carrying dead bodies wasn't listed in my list of
"fun things to do" but it's an intteresting idea anyway

I think it's possible to make a Ummu a cargo for bay... see SDK.

Dan

The space mafia?

[DanSteph]

Dvo a écrit:
Is it possible for a DEAD! UMMU to have an "E" airlock command?
Is it possible for a UMMU to ingress a DEAD! UMMU?
Is it possible for the DGIV to "ingest" a UMMU or DEAD! UMMU

I think it's possible to modify the ummu.cfg so it can be grappled by a DGIV
I have done this for turbopack. One must try.

Dan

[sunshine135]

The funny thing is I was thinking about making a hearse skin for the DGIV and a matching "coffin container" the other day,
but then I said, "No, you're just a sicko. Don't make that." Then I felt ashamed  

Well damn, now I'm glad I'm not the only sicko playing orbiter!!!!  

I would actually think a Space Funeral service would be quite profitable!!!! Could make for some neat, if not morbid, scenarios.

[willy88]

Hey, at least it isn't a container filled with dead bats....

[killingsnake]

I don't know if its fictional, but here it goes. It costs as much as a normal funeral, but when you are cremated, you can
send your ashes to space, where it will burn in atmosphere, and so spreading your ashes around the globe... I've heard that a
few years ago, not sure if it exits or not... Why not do that with the DGIV? Dump cargo, and prepare for reentry again?



Post Edited ( 06-08-07 23:05 )

[MattNW]

Hmmm, if you put the dead guy in the cabin instead of the cargo bay I hope you don't have far to go like returning him to
Earth from Mars. Would get a little ripe in six months or so.

[James.Denholm]

Dvo wrote:
How many UMMU's do you think could fit in a cargo module?

More if they were cremated... Maybe everyone should carry a flamethrower! It would be an awesome way to end it
all, floating away from civilisation, running out of air... FWOOMPH

Ok, more seriously, I would say about three, maybe four... at most.

[Dvo]

killingsnake wrote:
I don't know if its fictional, but here it goes. It costs as much as a normal funeral, but when you are cremated, you can
send your ashes to space, where it will burn in atmosphere, and so spreading your ashes around the globe... I've
heard that a
few years ago, not sure if it exits or not... Why not do that with the DGIV? Dump cargo, and prepare for reentry again?

Nonfictional!  On April 28 2007, a capsule containing the ashes of astronaut Gordon Cooper, actor James Doohan
(Scotty!) and about 200 other customers was launched by UP Aerospace aboard a Spaceloft XL rocket beyond the
generally agreed boundary of space at 100km altitude, and then allowed to parachute to ground recovery in New
Mexico.  It took 20 days or so to find the capsule after return but it has now been recovered.  The capsule does not
burn on reentry; the ash samples are returned to the next of kin after recovery.  Cool huh! Check out UP Aerospace
for more info:

http://www.upaerospace.com/

Dvo

[woo482]

cold you make an update wear you can but them in the cargo bay?

[Dvo]

I uploaded a "Casualty Recovery Module" container to the add-on directory.  It's a little rough but I am working on
something better.  Meanwhile, any other sicko's feel free to make a gross scenario.  Okay I admit it I am totally
morbid!  But we need to bring back our fallen colleagues, right?

Dvo

[woo482]

can you put them in?

[R Groszewski]

MattNW wrote:
Hmmm, if you put the dead guy in the cabin instead of the cargo bay I hope you don't have far to go like returning
him to
Earth from Mars. Would get a little ripe in six months or so.

Mmm, Food! You can get quite hungry on those long, interplanetary trips. Could someone make a Violin Case
Cargo? "Lookie here, Ma! I got 16 of them Ummu guys in this here little violin case!"  And I had another Idea: Why
not create a little key command for the UMMU so in the event that either they are captured on a secret spy mission or
die, you press a key comb. to self destruct the body! I like the Space Mafia idea, though. "Get ready, boys. Tonight
we have a 'meeting' with the Gorf System Mafia. Make sure the violin cases are ready."

[Dvo]

R Groszewski wrote:
Why not create a little key command for the UMMU so in the event that either they are captured on a secret spy
mission or die, you press a key comb. to self destruct the body!

Okay now I don't think I'm the most morbid anymore.  That's SICK!  And I like it!

Dvo

[MattNW]

R Groszewski wrote:

Mmm, Food! You can get quite hungry on those long, interplanetary trips.

In a self sufficient space colony that wouldn't be too far from the truth. People use resources all their life, have to
return those to the biosystem in one way or another after they die. Same life circle you have on Earth just much shorter in
space. Bring em back have a service and ship the remains to hydroponics.

[R Groszewski]

(Gnaws on dead UMMU body) You're right, MattNW. I don't get the same satisfaction from cannibalism as I do sitting
down and eating a steak. Give me sec while I marinate this corpse.

[MattNW]

Was thinking more along the line of salad but to each his own.

[killingsnake]

Dvo wrote:

Nonfictional!  On April 28 2007, a capsule containing the ashes of astronaut Gordon Cooper, actor James Doohan
(Scotty!) and about 200 other customers was launched by UP Aerospace aboard a Spaceloft XL rocket beyond the
generally agreed boundary of space at 100km altitude, and then allowed to parachute to ground recovery in New
Mexico.  It took 20 days or so to find the capsule after return but it has now been recovered.  The capsule does not
burn on reentry; the ash samples are returned to the next of kin after recovery.  Cool huh! Check out UP Aerospace
for more info:

http://www.upaerospace.com/

Dvo

Thanks for checking that out . Probally invented the burn thing over the years then...  It actually sounds appealing to me
to end that way.

[R Groszewski]

Anyone up for "Ummu-Chops"? You might find a bit of spacesuit here and there, but I think I got most of it out. Say,
did you know that Roadkill Collectors (that is an actual municipal-city job) in Georgia are allowed to take home the
dead animals that they find, and cook them and eat them? I heard it saves between $5,000~$10,000 a year in
groceries! "Why thank you, Pa. I'v always wanted a dead buck hanging on the wall in my bathroom."

[Ursus]

R Groszewski wrote:
"Why thank you, Pa. I'v always wanted a dead buck hanging on the wall in my bathroom."

Shouldn't Buck be capitalized? You do mean Buck Rogers, don't you?