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Offline Heywood

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Reply #50 - 09 April 2007, 15:45:49
Very elegant, they could be "mister/miss universe".  :badsmile:

nice and good work. Thanks. :applause:

Heywood



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Reply #51 - 09 April 2007, 20:35:47
Awesome!

Yep, sounds reasonable. I suppose noone really would have used such a feature anyway.


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Reply #52 - 09 April 2007, 22:21:52
Will the different spacesuit colours be visible inside the cabin? Or will they appear white?


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Reply #53 - 09 April 2007, 22:38:32
how about a multiplayer thing where each person can control a passenger(solider,scientist ect.)


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Reply #54 - 09 April 2007, 22:48:45
Are you mad or just a bit dim?


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Reply #55 - 09 April 2007, 22:52:16
I think You should make all the crew members able to fly the DGIV.  In reality they all would be able to just in case
something happened to the pilot.  What you might want to do though is make it so that if a passenger (a civilian, the
president or, any other non-mission specialist) has to pilot the DGIV they can only steer it or something like that. They
won't be able to use all the controls because they won't know what most of them are.

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Reply #56 - 09 April 2007, 22:59:39
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Daniel76 wrote:
how about a multiplayer thing where each person can control a passenger(solider,scientist ect.)

Multiplayer is quite difficult, but Face is working on Orbiter Multiplayer Project or OMP which allows flying together
online or even sharing spacecraft. Currently not public, and in beta.



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-Nick

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Reply #57 - 09 April 2007, 23:00:58
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Reply #58 - 09 April 2007, 23:02:04
Van,

About the all crew should fly the DGIV:

I think that would mean a great deal of additional coding, as you have to define which person can use what controls. Besides
think about it in real life. If you were flying a 747 and the pilot and copilot fell ill at the same time (i knew that
aircraft food is bad for you :)) and you stepped into the cockpit without ANY clue what all those knobs, buttons, switches
and screens mean or do, do you honestly think you could fly it? Even steering might sounds simple but if you dont understand
the notion that there is a 3rd dimention to what you are doing (up/down) compared to your cars forward/back and left right.
Thing will quickly get overwhelming and you'd crash the plane.

I can just picture the VIP....ok now i got the plane on a course for the runway.....now gear....where is that
button.....ummm.......AH THERE! *click* *No Hydraulic pressure*.....What?!.....Eeeeh what is hydraulic pressure?!?



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Reply #59 - 09 April 2007, 23:09:04
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Voyager wrote:
Van,

About the all crew should fly the DGIV:

I think that would mean a great deal of additional coding, as you have to define which person can use what controls.
Besides
think about it in real life. If you were flying a 747 and the pilot and copilot fell ill at the same time (i knew that
aircraft food is bad for you :)) and you stepped into the cockpit without ANY clue what all those knobs, buttons,
switches
and screens mean or do, do you honestly think you could fly it? Even steering might sounds simple but if you dont
understand
the notion that there is a 3rd dimention to what you are doing (up/down) compared to your cars forward/back and
left right.
Thing will quickly get overwhelming and you'd crash the plane.

I can just picture the VIP....ok now i got the plane on a course for the runway.....now gear....where is that
button.....ummm.......AH THERE! *click* *No Hydraulic pressure*.....What?!.....Eeeeh what is hydraulic pressure?!?

About your last comment Voyager... THAT'S WHAT I MEAN! THE VIP CAN'T USE THAT STUFF!
It might take some coding, but just make it so that the last guy on the list is limited to using the generic HUD only.  
That would make things interesting.  Or you can just make it so that they can all fly it equaly well.

- Dan II :)

Offline Voyager

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Reply #60 - 09 April 2007, 23:21:42
Well i'd hate to be the one having to plough through 30.000 lines of code to realise your idea :)

I guess thats just what pilots are for. Seriously if you put me in a space shuttle now, no matter how much i know about
orbital mechanics, i'd never be able to get it down safely. Normal passengers just cant fly space ships, not even to a degree :)


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Reply #61 - 10 April 2007, 00:56:58
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Weather MFD :))




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Reply #62 - 10 April 2007, 01:01:31
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willy88 a écrit:
Will the different spacesuit colours be visible inside the cabin? Or will they appear white?

No sorry, I doesn't want to rewrite a complete game yet. (if it's not clear: this new
feature would probably take one or two week more, lets just pretend that they
have different spacesuit inside or that they can control the pigment of it and must
display their function only in EVA)


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Van Zan9 a écrit:
I think You should make all the crew members able to fly the DGIV.  In reality they all would be able to just in case
something happened to the pilot.

This would not only be unrealistic but would also cut a whole set of intteresting senarios.
Also the "pilot only be able to control ship" is a realistic feature that took me weeks to complete,
I preffer adding stuff than removing them ;)

Dan


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Reply #63 - 11 April 2007, 01:16:55
I see, I'm not a programer at all so I don't know how long it takes to program these things. :siffle: Why can't
computer languages be in english or french.  That would make things so much easier. :)

- Dan II :)

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Reply #64 - 11 April 2007, 01:36:05
I bet that the day when computer will understand plain english they will be able to
program addons or games themself ;)

Dan


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Reply #65 - 11 April 2007, 02:16:29
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You forgot lawyer :???: I wonder why?

As ballast? :)
That's the best joke I've heard lately!

On-topic: Looks very nice Dan!


I must admit I won't be able to work tonight... :lol:

On topic: Dan: great work! :applause:

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Reply #66 - 11 April 2007, 20:58:54
Hi Dan, I'm a newcomer in your forum. I think that a simple navigation officer who can be a living member of the
deltaglider crew could be a nice idea. Someone who takes care of route, planning resources as water, oxygen and so
on. A virtual assistant... Sometimes in space we miss human relationships.


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Reply #67 - 11 April 2007, 21:17:59
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nightghost67 wrote:
Hi Dan, I'm a newcomer in your forum. I think that a simple navigation officer who can be a living member of the
deltaglider crew could be a nice idea. Someone who takes care of route, planning resources as water, oxygen and so
on. A virtual assistant... Sometimes in space we miss human relationships.

That's way too much you're asking for in this stage of the beta.  For the sake of saving Dan some work, and more
importantly, keeping the release date of the DGIV as close as possible ( ;) ) let's save this for the DGV.  Water isn't
included in the ship anyway.


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Reply #68 - 14 April 2007, 21:01:48
Try this. Make the mining version of the DGIV Have a treadmill at the left- very back side of the craft and a computer at the
back-right side of the craft. The middle-right will have a station where they recieve and analyze rock samples for
radioactivity and that junk, and the middle-left can have a place where the probe monitering equipment can be placed, and the
front, cockpit and that stuff. Where am i getting these ideas you ask? A space shuttle simulation we did in 6th grade where
we sent a probe down to mars to get rock samples and bring them up for analysis. This way, all the crew members would have
something to do. Also, put a blood pressure test station somewhere in there too.


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Reply #69 - 16 April 2007, 14:15:38
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I'm changing the crew system aboard DGIV (following the new UMmu Possibilities)



I think to add a set of 15-20 function possible this would add some possibilites
in scenarios.

"you must land with two geologist in copernicus crater to study strange formation"

I have this yet:

Capt - Pilot in command
Capt - Pilot (can replace the pilot in command)
Eng - engineer
Doc - doctor
Sci - scientific
Geo - geologist
Ast - astronaut

Not defined:  passenger

Maybe other scientific category ? "physician" ? other ?
and also things like "president" ? ("they had president aboard... crashed... rescue him")

Maybe some may have special spacesuit when they EVA ?

Dan
how about a moon to mars mission based on nasa's plans but still fictive?:beer:


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Reply #70 - 17 April 2007, 03:49:14
I have an Idea! What about making a small Ummu for simulating children or babies! You know, not every transworld
flight should be adults only... And just a little more fun, You could add the tetris MFD(get it at orbithangar) and
pretend there are screens in the back.  Lol, bet the babies would probably drown in their suits because of their own
drool.... :eek: . On the crew display, you could put a DEAD sign that says BABY SMOOTHERED IN DROOL. AUTO
EJECTING INTO SPACE IN FAVOR OF SAVING SPACE AND ROOM FOR THE MICROWAVE.


"Air Force Four-Five, it appears your engine has...oh, disregard...I see you've already ejected." -Heard on Scanner, KORD


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Reply #71 - 17 April 2007, 04:53:03
:lol: you're right! Child-Children, ift-Infant!




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Reply #72 - 17 April 2007, 13:22:00
Babies in little spacesuits? Through 5Gs? And bone deteriation? And constantly crying while you fly? I'd rather leave
them on the ground...


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Reply #73 - 17 April 2007, 14:03:43
take them to the sun?


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Reply #74 - 17 April 2007, 20:06:16
I dont think you wanna take a child up in a space ship. Especially one at the level of development as the DGIV. And i dont
think Childeren will go into space, at least not until the invention of artaficial gravity and inertia dampners.

As if bone deterioration isn't enough, childeren are still in a constant state of groth, exposing them to 0G could have some
serious reprocusions on there growth.

Besides though the DGIV's passenger center you can add crew members as yougn as 11 years old. I wouldn't call them anything
but passengers (or maybe a VIP on occasion), I dont think a 11 year old engineer or mission specialist would be very realistic ;)

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