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Offline apollo13

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Reply #25 - 25 April 2007, 03:03:53
when are new MFD's coming out?

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Reply #26 - 25 April 2007, 10:10:50
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I've heard that there will be a new MFD.

I think you should stop listening to those voices in your head. All thats planned for 2007 (if there is a 2007 version at
all), is the separation between physics server and graphic client.

See here: http://orbit.m6.net/Forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=13786


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Reply #27 - 25 April 2007, 17:20:11
Indeed, it appears as if that project is nearing completion.

http://orbitervis.cvs.sourceforge.net/orbitervis/orbitervis/README.txt?revision=1.3&view=markup

So now not only do I have to get up to speed on C++, I've got some code I can sink my teeth into, and I've also got a long
and tedious DX7/DX9/DX10/OpenGL curve to ascend.

What Martin is asking, is why haven't more developers taken this up? I can only answer for myself. It's because I'm already
swamped with the ordinary Orbiter learning curves, and any DX9/DX10 development for Orbiter is almost going to be a
commercial endeavor, requiring capital investment. And actually, until Martin posted, I hadn't even taken a look at his code
repository. Lot's of good stuff in there. If I had unlimited funds and unlimited time, I would be working on this full time.

We need to get some gaming gurus on board for this. I too am mostly interested in the physics, but it's the eye candy
(graphics clients) and the ease of use (scripting clients) that is going to 'sell' this thing to the public masses.


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Reply #28 - 25 April 2007, 22:54:50
nice

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Reply #29 - 26 April 2007, 06:11:09
in 2007 edition it might have a faster shuttle
since the origonal is SLOW! as


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Reply #30 - 26 April 2007, 06:56:05
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in 2007 edition it might have a faster shuttle
since the origonal is SLOW! as


Why would it? The space shuttle isn't designed to go to the moon, or any other celestial body (besides Earth).


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Reply #31 - 26 April 2007, 09:27:56
Also, the default space shuttle is already more capable as the real space shuttle, as it has a tiny bit of extra performance
for allowing to be launched manually. The Shuttle fleet or Space Shuttle Deluxe are(will) even (be) less capable when it
comes to maneuver budget.

If you want to moon or mars, the Deltaglider or the Shuttle-A are the default spacecraft of choice.


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Reply #32 - 26 April 2007, 13:31:23
Delta-Glider is the best choice.

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Reply #33 - 26 April 2007, 20:29:13
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Delta-Glider is the best choice.

I am not sure - did you already try a shuttle-A cargo run from the moon to earth and back? On one load of fuel? I even
managed to drop the cargo modules in a small circle (about 1 km) before returning to the moon.

I am sure, with only a partial load of cargo modules, you can get easily to mars from the moon - even faster as with a DG.


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Reply #34 - 26 April 2007, 22:31:41
Remember I had a problem flying to distant planets and moons, Urwumpe? (Well now I don't)
I made a flight to Europa to orbit the moon in the Shuttle-A It did'nt really work out so, I used the Delta-Glider to
make the same trip to Europa.Guess what?,it worked better thatn the Shuttle-A.
But If you want to go to the Moon I recommend the Shuttle-A.



P.S. Urwumpe,I flew a mission to Jupiter and got sucked in by the gravity.How many km from the surface of the planet
should I be on, 500km, 700km, tell me please because, I'm making a station in Jovian orbit and I want it to be perfect.
If you know please tell me.

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Reply #35 - 26 April 2007, 22:33:34
WARNING!! I'm about to go :off: for a bit....

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melinda: more wookies and i will turn towards the dark side.

Just have M6 running and this forum gets only used by kiddie spammers...



I suggest a new strategy, Urwumpe.  

I suggest you "let the wookie win," so to speak.


Anyway, back to the topic.  I would definitely love to dive into development for Orbiter, if I had the hardware.  Right now my mid-range PC barely runs Orbiter as it is (2Ghz P4, 1Gb RAM, 256MB PCI Radeon 9250).  Getting into development would probably be more than my PC could handle, as I don't get very good graphics performance through the PCI bus, and don't have an AGP slot.  I have a lot of ships I would like to design for Orbiter, but my hardware and my lack of a budget due to the little one we have on the way are holding me back.  As much as I love Orbiter, if the next release gets much more graphics-intensive, I may have to bow out for a bit.  :sad:

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Reply #36 - 26 April 2007, 22:34:31

I suggest a new strategy, Urwumpe.  

I suggest you "let the wookie win," so to speak.

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What?

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Reply #37 - 26 April 2007, 22:43:45
It's a reference to a scene in Star Wars.



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Reply #38 - 26 April 2007, 23:20:17
oh ok

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Reply #39 - 27 April 2007, 00:11:05
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P.S. Urwumpe,I flew a mission to Jupiter and got sucked in by the gravity.How many km from the surface of the planet
should I be on, 500km, 700km, tell me please because, I'm making a station in Jovian orbit and I want it to be perfect.
If you know please tell me.

If it should be manned, far far away.  The radiation belt of jupiter is plain deadly. Just for comparison: The magnetic field
of influence of jupiter appears to be as large as the moon, when seen from earth.

Also its smart to either have a resonance orbit with one of the larger moons when closer to jupiter or be again further away.


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Reply #40 - 27 April 2007, 00:28:01
Ok, thanks!!!


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Reply #41 - 27 April 2007, 06:28:43
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Delta-Glider is the best choice.

I am not sure - did you already try a shuttle-A cargo run from the moon to earth and back? On one load of fuel? I even
managed to drop the cargo modules in a small circle (about 1 km) before returning to the moon.

I am sure, with only a partial load of cargo modules, you can get easily to mars from the moon - even faster as with a
DG.
how do you drop the cargo on shuttle a:stupid:


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Reply #42 - 27 April 2007, 07:05:18
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how do you drop the cargo on shuttle a:stupid:
Overhead Panel in virtual cockpit mode... you'll see the buttons.
Go to your Orbiter directory, open the folder called Docs, see ShuttleA.PDF and enjoy a very fine manual.  
Section 2.2.  :gift:


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Reply #43 - 27 April 2007, 07:38:28
thanks


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Reply #44 - 28 April 2007, 04:35:07
Why?

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Reply #45 - 28 April 2007, 19:18:17
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apollo13 a écrit:
Delta-Glider is the best choice.

I am not sure - did you already try a shuttle-A cargo run from the moon to earth and back? On one load of fuel? I even
managed to drop the cargo modules in a small circle (about 1 km) before returning to the moon.

I am sure, with only a partial load of cargo modules, you can get easily to mars from the moon - even faster as with a
DG.

I remember trying that scenario a few months ago. Maybe it was cheating but I simply released the cargo a few seconds after
completing the TEI burn at the moon. Then I immediately turned retrograde and reinserted the orbit at the moon never going
more than 100 above the lunar surface. I was on the ground back at Brighton Beach a couple hours or so after the initial
launch. The cargo headed out on its own to the Earth and landed 3 days later on my chosen target off the west coast of India.
More planning as far as the burn to leave the moon but WAY less fuel used. Ya, cheating since it did mention doing a LEO in
the scenario description. I just couldn't see going all that way to deliver the cargo when it could be done from a distance.
Probably came from my days as a paperboy. Why walk up to place the paper on the doormat when a proper launch from the street
would work. Well, most of the time anyway. :o



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Reply #46 - 28 April 2007, 22:41:22
Ok


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Reply #47 - 30 April 2007, 02:34:20
it been almost 1 year since the realease of 060504 :(




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Reply #48 - 30 April 2007, 02:41:58
Oh, come on! You can't expect an Orbiter every year although it tends to happen. Martin is busy. Orbiter is
complicated.


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Reply #49 - 30 April 2007, 03:20:16
Jer, when the DeltagliderIV is released, Orbiter will seem completely new.
Trust me, when this monster is unleashed, Orbiter will never be the same.


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