[old topic] Building space stations

[LostInSpace]

I've been flying the STS-117 scenario using the newest version of Orbiter, Shuttle Fleet v. 3.9.3, ISS v. 1.1.1, and the
Shuttle Fleet Expansion Pack.  Let me just first say it is amazing!  It is truly a testemant to all the hard work the
addon developers do that we can fly such realistic scenarios in real time. Hats off to Martin Schweiger for making it all
possible.  

I currently have Atlantis docked to the ISS.  I removed the S3S4 truss from the cargo bay using the RMS, and handed
it off to the arm on the space station.  I can manipulate it to where I believe it should attach, but there only appears
to be one available attachment point on the truss (though its on the inside in the middle of the structure).  If I'm
placing it on the right spot on the station, there doesn't seem to be any attachment points there.  Is it not possible
yet to realistically attach the truss to the station?  Is there a key combination to open the truss more so that the
second attachment point is more accessible?  If not I guess I'll get the truss back in the cargo bay and bring it back
home until it can be added to the station.  Heh heh!

[Nistenf]

Hello.

How do I put the Station Building Blocks (or the modules that come with Orbiter) in orbit with the DGIV?
I mean, how do I put it into the DGIV's payload? Is this possible or I'll have to use the Atlantis?

Thanks in advance.

[sunshine135]

Nistenf wrote:
Hello.

How do I put the Station Building Blocks (or the modules that come with Orbiter) in orbit with the DGIV?
I mean, how do I put it into the DGIV's payload? Is this possible or I'll have to use the Atlantis?

Thanks in advance.

DGIV and Atlantis are to small to place the SSBBs in orbit. I recommend Greg Burch's guppyized BSP with the Energia Addon.
You will need to create a spacecraft3 .ini file for any "piece" you put in orbit, and then change it back to it's native
config file with each subsequent launch (this sounds harder than it is, but RTFM and you will understand what I am talking
about). Once you have Vinka's latest Spacecraft3.dll, Burch's SSBBs and BSP packages, TX with equitorial bases and Energia,
you can create a scenario like this, and just adapt it as you go:

BEGIN_DESC
BSP 300 connected to Energia Booster is ready to take the first Space Station Components to 200km LEO
END_DESC

BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
  System Sol
  Date MJD 78994.4133166222
END_ENVIRONMENT

BEGIN_FOCUS
  Ship Energia
END_FOCUS

BEGIN_CAMERA
  TARGET Energia
  MODE Extern
  POS 2.10 0.69 -115.82
  TRACKMODE TargetRelative
  FOV 50.00
END_CAMERA

BEGIN_HUD
  TYPE Surface
END_HUD

BEGIN_MFD Left
  TYPE Orbit
  PROJ Ship
  FRAME Ecliptic
  ALT
  REF Earth
END_MFD

BEGIN_MFD Right
  TYPE Docking
  NAV 0
END_MFD


BEGIN_SHIPS
HabModule1A1:Spacecraft\spacecraft3
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS -49.6231816 0.0000147
  HEADING 90.00
  ATTACHED 0:0,BSP300
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  RCS 1
  CTRL_SURFACE 1
  CONFIGURATION 1
  CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
END
BSP300:Spacecraft\spacecraft3
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS -49.6231789 0.0000147
  HEADING 90.00
  ATTACHED 0:5,Energia
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  RCS 1
  CTRL_SURFACE 1
  CONFIGURATION 1
  CURRENT_PAYLOAD 0
  SEQ 4 -2 0.000000
  SEQ 5 -2 0.000000
  SEQ 6 -2 0.000000
  SEQ 7 -2 0.000000
  SEQ 8 -2 0.000000
  SEQ 9 -2 0.000000
  SEQ 10 -2 0.500000
  SEQ 11 -2 0.500000
  SEQ 12 -2 0.500000
  SEQ 13 -2 0.500000
  SEQ 14 -2 0.500000
  SEQ 15 -2 0.125000
END
Tower:Energia Tower (ENERGY project)
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS 101.1377493 1.3343444
  HEADING 270.00
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000
  PLATFORM1 0 0.0000
  PLATFORM2 0 0.0000
  G_ELEVATION 35.000
  LIGHTS 1
  BEACONS 1
  PL_DECK -14.200 10.000 34.000
END
Energia:Energia (ENERGY project)
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS 101.1377493 1.3343444
  HEADING 270.00
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  HATCH 1 1.0000
  MAINSTATUS 0
  FLIGHTSTATUS 0
  PLSTATUS 1
  STAGESTATUS 1
  APSTATUS 1
  PRESTARTSTATUS 0
  ENGINESSTATUS 0
  BOOSTERSSTATUS 0
  DUMPLEVEL 0.000
  G_ELEVATION 35.000
  T_COUNTER 264.338
  T_MARKER 264.34 264.34
  JETTISONSPEED 1.000
  JETTISONINT 5.000
  TOWER_NAME Tower
  CUR_AP_MSG Ready
  REUSABLE_BOOSTERS 1
  ALLOW_AUTO_DELETE 0
  ALLOW_SEND_FOCUS 1
  PITCH_ANGLE 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
  YAW_ANGLE 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
  PITCH_PROC 0.3000 0.3500 0.3200 0.4000
  YAW_PROC 0.6500 0.3500 0.6500 0.3500
  SERVICEDATA 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.00
  PL_ARMS -0.5140 -21.1280
  PL_DESCRIPTION BSP300 0.000 11.200 1.780 0.000 -1.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 1.000
  IN_JETTISON 0 0
  J_MARKER 0.000
  LAUNCHAP_DATA 0 200000.00 1.3400 0.0000000 0.0000000 0.00000 200.00 8000.00 0.00 5.00 0.00 5.43 0.99 6
  MESSAGER_DATA 0 -1.00 3.00
END
EnergyZ_Energia:\Energy\EnergyZ
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS 101.1377493 1.3343444
  HEADING 270.00
  ATTACHED 0:0,Energia
  FERM 0 0.0000
  G_ELEVATION 35.00
  TIMER_C -1.00
  TIMER_A -1.00
END
EnergyA1_Energia:\Energy\EnergyA
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS 101.1377493 1.3343444
  HEADING 270.00
  ATTACHED 0:1,Energia
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000 3:1.000 4:1.000 5:1.000
  BOOSTER 1
  MAINSTATUS 0
  APSTATUS 0
  DUMPON 0
  T_MARKER 264.338
  ALLOW_AUTO_DELETE 0
  C_TRUSS 0 0.0000
  PARA_TRUSS 0 0.0000
  CORE_NAME Energia
  GEARS 0 0.0000
  RDTT 0 0.0000 0
  BRCHUTE 0 0.0000 0.5000 0.5000
  CHUTESTATUS 0
  REUSABLE_BOOSTERS 1
END
EnergyA2_Energia:\Energy\EnergyA
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS 101.1377493 1.3343444
  HEADING 270.00
  ATTACHED 0:2,Energia
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000 3:1.000 4:1.000 5:1.000
  BOOSTER 2
  MAINSTATUS 0
  APSTATUS 0
  DUMPON 0
  T_MARKER 264.338
  ALLOW_AUTO_DELETE 0
  C_TRUSS 0 0.0000
  PARA_TRUSS 0 0.0000
  CORE_NAME Energia
  GEARS 0 0.0000
  RDTT 0 0.0000 0
  BRCHUTE 0 0.0000 0.5000 0.5000
  CHUTESTATUS 0
  REUSABLE_BOOSTERS 1
END
EnergyA3_Energia:\Energy\EnergyA
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS 101.1377493 1.3343444
  HEADING 270.00
  ATTACHED 0:3,Energia
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000 1:1.000 2:1.000 3:1.000 4:1.000 5:1.000
  BOOSTER 3
  MAINSTATUS 0
  APSTATUS 0
  DUMPON 0
  T_MARKER 264.338
  ALLOW_AUTO_DELETE 0
  C_TRUSS 0 0.0000
  PARA_TRUSS 0 0.0000
  CORE_NAME Energia
  GEARS 0 0.0000
  RDTT 0 0.0000 0
  BRCHUTE 0 0.0000 0.5000 0.5000
  CHUTESTATUS 0
  REUSABLE_BOOSTERS 1
END
EnergyA4_Energia:\Energy\EnergyA
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS 101.1377493 1.3343444
  HEADING 270.00
  ATTACHED 0:4,Energia
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000 1:1.000 2:1.000 3:1.000 4:1.000 5:1.000
  BOOSTER 4
  MAINSTATUS 0
  APSTATUS 0
  DUMPON 0
  T_MARKER 264.338
  ALLOW_AUTO_DELETE 0
  C_TRUSS 0 0.0000
  PARA_TRUSS 0 0.0000
  CORE_NAME Energia
  GEARS 0 0.0000
  RDTT 0 0.0000 0
  BRCHUTE 0 0.0000 0.5000 0.5000
  CHUTESTATUS 0
  REUSABLE_BOOSTERS 1
END
END_SHIPS
BEGIN_ExtMFD
END

If it seems like a lot to learn, it really isn't. I figured out a way to build the stations in about 2 days of messing with
all of these packages. The worst thing is people think it sounds difficult, so they don't do it. Just refuse to succumb to
that and learn. That is one of the main purposes Dr. Schweiger made Orbiter for- to learn.

Cheers,

[Nistenf]

Thanks for that, I'll try later!

And what about the modules that come with orbiter? Can they be put into the DGIV's payload?

[g2g591]

....camander ale please try to improve your english, it is difficult to understand what you are trying to say sometimes.

camander ale wrote:
well it doesent any more but i was trying to make the atlantis have it but it wasent working propley.and with the mfd
when i am in orbit the mfd some tims tells me that the iss or any other craft is near me but i cant see it any where can
some one tell me pleas how to use it