Orbiter Solar Nations IV [Closed see number V]

[She_Da_Lier]

freespace:
*signs*
You've got it

BTW, I don't know how destroying those facilities can help you as they've already been destroyed by MadMike

[freespace2dotcom]

W00t!

er...

ehem.. we would have blown them up again.

well, we're happy. the goal was to help prevent the "total" domination of the earth, and we've just done that. all's
fair again. (well, at least with venus, anyway.)
 
Also, I'm please to report that docholiday was actually visiting venus on a business trip, and so was not on mars
when the **** hit the fan. I can tell you he was pretty mad, but he'd never admit it publicly, I think... as a consolation, we gave him some diamonds made from the venusian atmosphere. more then enough to hastily rebuild his base, anyway.

anyways, since it looks like venus isn't going to be getting back the gold deposits from mercury, SDL is authorized to
withdraw that for his own purposes if he feels he can get them.

also, my much smaller contingency hidden fleet at the moon is currently reversing the moon's core heatup. no danger of breakup anymore. (that was close, and might I add that if the moon would be destroyed, all of earth would feel the effects. mind you all the people on the moon! think of the people!)

*begins rebuilding north america*



Post Edited ( 01-16-06 12:49 )

[oli_chose123]

Venus, thiws gold is ours now, yo don't have any rights to it. SDLSE, this statement from venus just means that they
don't want to give you anything.

OCC: Madmike, I still don't get what is the problem with the current situation, except the fact that SDL was
erradicated injustly, with cheating...

[MadMike]

freespace2dotcom wrote:
Freespace's flagship suddenly decloaks over Earth.

Hello World.

[/color]

Greetings, to all nations. My main battle fleet is now poised over earth and can begin bombarding every major
industrial and political center on earth. I am fully prepared to do so and will commit myself if necessary.

However, since war is never a pretty thing I am willing to sign a peace treaty with SDL on the condition that I get the
entire continent of North America (defined as the borders of the 50 states of the USA, and Canada in the early 21st
century. mexico is.... negotiable.) If this peace treaty can be signed, then SDL will have venus' full support in
combatting aliens or whatever entity that troubles him with the exception of docholiday's fleet if it is not attacking
us . this treaty recognizes SDL's soveregnty over the rest of earth.

If the unfortunate chance occurs that this gentlemenly agreement cannot be concluded favorably, than I fully intend
to destroy earth's industrial capacity with a minimal loss of life, effectively ruining your ability to wage war.

(PS. we now have the technology to reverse the moon's untimely induced core decay. we'll throw that in as a bonus if
you sign.)

Admiral Freespace was called to his flaships command center were his crew were all standing gob smacked




== transmission to Freespace Flagship ===
== from FedEx StarShip2 ===

good day kind sir

as you can see we have joined you in your mission to seek peace and understanding, harsh words like
destroy and loss of life  and war are not at the moment looked at in a good way to open
talks so we kindly ask you to withdraw them, do not be to alarmed at the size of our ships, they will do no
harm to peace loving individuals, anyway the big boys are still at home !!

[freespace2dotcom]

Freespace gasps as these huge ships outclass even his flagship. where the heck do these people get these
things?  

Freespace's #2 in command quickly raises the fleet to yellow alert and awaits orders.

Freespace: Don't worry.. this is just like poker.  we just have to play our hand right. don't fire on them unless they fire
on us, and hail them.  



----------------------------

To Madmike:

Well now. those are quite big ships you've got there.  

Because I care for earth, I signed a peace treaty with SDL. This treaty gives me North america. I needed to do this
because I felt that the mass destruction on the moon and earth needed to stop. I could not stand by and watch. The
only way I could foresee earth not being totally anhillated would be if I stepped in and had some claim to defend it.

Now I do.

So because I control North America, I intend to rebuild it. I will remove most of my forces orbiting earth back to venus,
with the exception of my flagship and it's escorting cruisers and destroyers. I will also return my fleet orbiting the
moon back to venus once the core of the moon is fully stabilized. We have not yet opened fire on anything during our
time here..

We did this for the good of all the people of the solar system. I have no desire to attack anyone. just know that if we
are attacked here, we wil not hesitate to retaliate, but that is always a last option. we welcome peace so long as you
do not destroy moons wholesale again, K?

(OOC..  by the way... I had mentioned that I had a fleet there, not just my flagship.. I was just too lazy to
edit them in so I "cloaked" them. it doesn't matter unless you want to attack, IF you do, just make sure it's
balanced, you know? I'll give you a good "special effects" fight but I really did just want to prevent any celestial
bodies dissapearing, because I think it was escalating to that point.. *sigh* )

[Xianus]

--- RRC DAILY BULLETIN ---

Today on the press conferention president of the RRC announced that the "New Home" project have started. First
ships with new Rhea citizens will arrive soon. Two new bases are under construction, and three more are in the
planning stage.

--- END OF ARTICLE ---

[oli_chose123]

madmike,you still didn't awnser what is wrong with SDL and me now... how can we change if we don't know what
you're talking about...


still, I thought these ships were destroyed by SDL...

Mercurian spy ship, orbiting earth...
Officer:My god!
Technician:F**king Sh*t!!
Captain: save the video and send it to Mercury command... They're really huge...
Technician: I've got a sensor scan sir. I can't do more without being detected...
Captain: That'll be enough, you've got a weak point?
Technician:one or two, but I'm not sure
Captain: That'll suffice, Helm, get back home...

OCC: That's jsut tactical data, we don't want to risk any ships against THIS, but that's just in case...

[MadMike]

oli_chose123 wrote:
madmike,you still didn't awnser what is wrong with SDL and me now... how can we change if we don't know what
you're talking about...


still, I thought these ships were destroyed by SDL...

Not sure what you mean, theres nothing wrong with either of you, but FedEx has a long history of disagreement with
SDL, eaven before your entrance into Solar Nations, and since you joined and became buddy pals with SDL you
naturaly became part of the disagreement,

At the moment FedEx are regrouping, revising our policys and are open to trade and diplomatic relations with all
nations, you and SDL including, but past actions/disputes between us still run at the back of our mind, and we are
not 100% sure of your intentions, so we tread carefully when you are around, you more than SDL because SDL
adopts a course and tends to follow it, but you change direction like the wind.

As for SDL destroying our ships, well if you read the post correct you will find that althou he did concidrable damage,
and indeed several were lost, FedEx has a huge fleet and have been expanding since the start of OSN, the ships that
attacked Moon/Earth were of the Adventure Class, and it was these that SDL tracked and jumped on, the ships in the
pic are StarShip Class, and were not in the area concerned, FedEx has many different class of ships from fighters of
DG size / Transports / Hospital / Rescue / Reserch / Exploration / Tankers / Frigettes / Destroyers / Battle Ships /
Militry Carriers / and the Intergalatic StarShips,   in orbit around Mars we had huge construction platforms(now
destroyed) but rebuilding at our present location,

The location of our DeepSpace Base I declare to all now is unkown to any of you, and to find us without knowing the
actual coords would be impossible, each class of our ships now have a jump pattern of several stages to arrive there
and you would need the coords of one to be able to jump to the next, and so forth, each of these jump positions is
now permantly monitored by a capital ship, if a point is discovered it would at once notify FedEx Command and the
point would be abbandoned for another, these jumps are only valid for inbound traffic , because we already know the
position of the planets/moons other nations bases, we can jump direct from one intermediate location, selected at
random, so the ships could only be back tracked to that point in space and no further,  also at no time would more
than ( appart from the local defence fleet) 5% of our forces be at home base but would be dispersed in small groups
around the Galaxy,

[MadMike]

freespace2dotcom wrote:
Freespace gasps as these huge ships outclass even his flagship. where the heck do these people get these
things?  

Like I said the big boys are still at home,  but just for you a preveiw of FedExAdventure66 ( Class5 Adventure Type
Carrier)  not tried but think I could put about 8 of your flagships underdeck in the hangers




Only problem I have with these ships at moment is manovarability when loaded with 200 Fighters/transporters !!

[MadMike]

While we are on the subject of large ship
This is the one I put out to Oli but he never used it,, Its a Class 1 Adventure, about the same size as your Flagship

[GW_Simulations]

She_Da_Lier wrote:
We already stated that UFMP is not allowed to enter Earth/Moon area.
I don't know how you passed our defences, anyway if you want an alliance or at least peace, release all prisoners
and
captured units immediately.
We wish you let our inspectors to check the conditions our citizens are held in.
We're also glad that there is a possibility that Doc survived the explosion on Mars and we hope he will be treated
well and
won't be held as a prisoner.

We are holding no prisoners - we only recovered civillians from the SOL-3 area, and we are not in a state of war with
the GSI.

Your inspectors may visit our base on the asteroid 1 Ceres, to inspect the condition of their treatment, BUT THEY
MUST COME IN UNARMED SHIPS. Survivors will be free to go when they are fully fit, and the habitable status of your
planet is confirmed. (The destruction of the planet's primary satillite may cause it to become unstable).
When initial matters are sorted out, we will negotiate the release of millitary technology. We confirm that this was all
unmanned at the time of capture.


We would like to repeat the message that we mean peace to all citizens of this system, and we hope that the hostile
reception that we recieved from yourself and the ME will not be repeated.


Finally, I would like to invite the leaders of all members of OSN to join us on the asteroid 90 Antiope for a discussion
on how we will probably affect the system. UNARMED SHIPS ONLY PLEASE.

[oli_chose123]

OCC: at least, someone using ME and not MMC



Well, sorry. We need at least an escort to get to your base. Anyway, what would an escort of 2 or 3 frigates would
do to your defence network? (frigates are small ships)

[GW_Simulations]

Armed ships are permitted to escort ships, as long as they don't fight with anyone, and they don't stick around after
the diplomatic ship has landed. (And obviously a full invasion force shouldn't be sent.)

PS. This is getting too long. We REALLY NEED a new thread.



Post Edited ( 01-17-06 22:58 )

[oli_chose123]

With the tons of pics we have here, GW is right, we need a new thread. Madmike you want to do it? You're one of the
firsts members, so I can't think of anybody else. About closing this one, I think only Dan can do this...

[freespace2dotcom]

heh. I'm up  for a new thread.

honestly, though we've got a number of super star destroyers, venus really doesn't have much anything bigger due
to resource/budget strains, but we do have quite the decent mass production infrastructure.

Well, we believe that for certain purposes, it' much better to have several smaller vessels than a really big one.

And I still happen to think that super star destroyers aren't "small" by any sense of the word. it's just relativity.

In any case, it's mostly a matter of technology. What's "under the hood" can count considerably. our ships can last
much longer than most other vessels their size.  We've totally revamped

My flagship for instance has a laser like that seen on the death star! (though on a smaller scale, unable to blow up
planets, nobody'd want to be on the wrong side of one!) We almost totally did away with the lots of
small "turbolaser" concept from star wars. except for our anti-fighter/bomber weaponry, we've got big guns for our
ship's size.

[She_Da_Lier]

To UFMP:
You by no means have the right to decide how we should arrive.
We may come for the meeting, but we'll have the full escort. All you'll have is our promise that we won't kick your butt (yet).
We also wish to have peace with your nation and all our aggresive movements against you were aborted.
We are sending unarmed ship to your asteroid (isn't it Dan's?) to inspect the conditions our civilians are imprisoned in.

To Oli:
MadMike isn't one of the earliests, but of course he can start the new thread.
Regarding closing threads, IIRC any op can do that, deleting threads can be only done by Dan.

[GW_Simulations]

YOUR CITIZENS ARE NOT IMPRISONED.

[She_Da_Lier]

Be cool.

[Xianus]

--- RRC DALY BULLETIN ---

Shipyards at full efficency

All shipyards on Rhea are working constantly. Large amount of resources will be invested to build new ships for the
Star Force. The main reason is that many of the current SF ships are very old. "The new ships will represent our most
recent technologies. Finally the Rhea Star Force will be able to compete with other nations' military agencies." - said
admiral Lenard on the press conferention. We have also some unofficial informations, that some of the new ships are
already bought by other fraction.

--- END OF ARTICLE ---
 
                                  * * *

Civilian Transport TS-0765, enroute to Pluto.

- Marc, wake up! You must come and see this. Something is wrong with my scanners...
- What? Don't worry. This ship is even older than you. I would be suprised if eveything would be ok with it. Just relax
and let the autopilot do all the work.
- I still think you should see this, Marc. Its really strange.
- Do you think that i don't have anything better to do? What have we here...

-----------------------------------------------------------
MK2 SCANNER SYSTEM:

Warning!
Vessel on collision course!
Type: unknown
Course: 456-575-035
Approx speed: 299,999999999 Mm/s
Approx size: 134m
Approx time to collision: 13 s
-----------------------------------------------------------

- You idiot, nothing can travel at that speed... it must be a failure... how long do you have this information?
- It appeared just before i woke you. Hey... Marc, look at the bottom view! Here, in the upper left corner. Can you see
it? The green blinking point!
- Where? Take your hand from the monitor!

...
Approx time to collision: 3 s
Approx time to collision: 2 s
Approx time to collision: 1 s

The unknown object passed just beside the transport ship. It was impossible to recognise its type. Only one detail
was visible - long, greenish beam following the ship. After a few seconds, the ship scanners have lost its signal.

                                    * * *

RRC research lab, location classified.

- Admiral, our first attempt was succesful. The beam drive works correctly.
- What about the civilian contact?
- Well, the prototype have passed a few meters after the transport. We are not certain about its state.
- So, what are you waiting for? Hail them!

- TS-0735, this is Rhea space control, what is your course?
- ... ... ...
- I repeat, TS-0735 this is Rhea space control, can you hear me?
- ... ... ...
- You will not believe us, guys! We have just seen...
- TS-0735, this is Rhea space control, have a good flight. Over & out.

- Admiral, it seems that thy are ok.
- Great. Go back to work. President will be proud of you.

[oli_chose123]

Approx speed: 299,999999999 Mm/s

That's approximate??!!

that gives 299 999 999 999 km/s, their scanner range must be really good to have seen this coming.

------------------
Officer: Sir, I've got a sensor echo on my screen
Captain: You know I don'T care about sensor echo. Now, about that weapons test...
Officer: but, sir, It's a straight line. A green light. It seems an object passed at high speed a few kilometers from us.
Captain: Stealth Status
Officer:not compromised. I'm trying to figure the location where it came from.
Captain: No time to change course. Get the most data you can, and we get out.
Officer: Data stored, ready for jump...
Captain: All hands, prepare for Lightjump.
XO: Lightjump sequence, location 6534-6757-3442, Mercurian sector, direction, 5024-345.
Technician: Lightdrive on stanby sir!


Captain...... JUMP!

(sry, I always wanted to write something like that )

[MadMike]

Regards New Thread

original OSN started by Travis Read

I thought it was his right to close this one and set up a new one; for me its no problem; with my systems Duel
Prosessor/Ram and permenant ADSL line; but for people with smaller systems and maybe 56K dial up maybe a
problem !!?

She

You say to run a server on ADSL can cause problems because of no fixed IP address, but I thought all Providers ADSL
or normal 56K dial up modems used IP set at each conection,  now my ADSL line is open 7/7  24/24 so normaly a new
IP address wold be allocated only if I disconect and reconnect, but If the system is running permanant ?

so if I need a fixed IP address that never changes;  how do I do this;  ?

This Intenet enviorment is confusing to me, i'm old and stupid

Now

I have a 2Meg ADSL Line ( but for the most I only get 1Meg service) they tell me that this is because of the distance
between me and the local exchange,,  they say this will improve next year when the fiber optic lins are installed in my
area ?

Now I have the main Computer connected to this service Via a Olitec WF400G Modem/Router with built in WiFi
The main unit is connected By the Lan Line to this unit

My son had a Small computer in his room, he conects to the internet through the WiFi on my modem, this works
eaven if my system is turned off,  we have never installed any software on his computer for internet connection, just
set his computer to connect to mine by a WiFi enabled MsHome Network; the one that comes standard with XP

I also have a LapTop with built in WiFi, I can connect to the internet with this in the same way, but I have never
installed any software from my provider here ?

I just click on IE and it opens direct to MS EXplorer UK
my provider is Tiscal.fr

all three of these units can be connected at the same time to different sevices, and they all run at between 1 and 2
meg depending on the time of the day, there is no slow down because more than 1 unit is connected

My unit is also running many programes and I normaly have around 6 different windows up over 2 19inch LCD
monitors all at the same time: at the moment I have the following running

This Forum/orbiter/Ogame/Ruters International News Service/local TV Channal/X2 Beyond the Frontier/HomeWorld
my son is also conected at the moment and watching a Film online,

so what do you think abiut the system also running as server for OSN  ?







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[Xianus]

Actually, 299,999999999 Mm/s is 299 999,999 999 Km/s - that means, almost as fast as the light speed. Your
calculations are wrong.

About the beam drive: As its name says, it creates a beam infront and after the vessel. If the drive recieves more
energy, it produces a longer beam, and a vessel travels faster. The main idea is, that the drive do not produces
acceleration, but it controls the actual speed of the beam. The beam is weightless, so the speed changes are
immediate. The only limit is the light speed barrier. And now the most important thing: the vessel is always static, but
attached to the moving beam. Therefore, there are no G-forces no matter what is the speed of the vessel, because
the acceleration is always 0. Now the downside: the vessel is always oriented in the middle of a beam, but it is visible
as it would be attached in the beginning of it. Because of the size of the beam (currently we have produced a beam
almost 2 AU long) the vessel will be detected when the beginning of the beam will enter the scanners range (it is the
reason the ship's type was "unknown" - it wasn't a ship, but a beam.) Another problem is, that the orientation
cannot be changed when the drive is working. You can only fly forward, so the ship needs also a conventional drive
to be able to make any manevrouers.

(i know that it is a complete fiction, but i think the OSN needs something new, besides of new military conflicts :P)

[MadMike]

Ref:   Xianus Beam Drive

Well we are all ears for a new drive type, but a few points here to clear

1 At the begining of your explanation you state that a beam is created infront & behind the vls

 Q: Why is the beam required behind

2 The Beam is composed of what

Now if the beam is light, and the length is proporsional to the power input/output , and the ship is always in the
center of the beam;  how do you know in witch direction the ship will traval, forward or backwards
and how is the movement achived; because as you increase the beam forward it is also extended rearwards;
so inreality the ship does not move; only the beam size increases or decreases ?

I think that although you deserve credit for the creative idea,  a bit more thought needs to go into it;

anyway this does not detract from you story line, I think we are all ready to accept that you have some kind of
propulsion system, that is capable at the momment of near light speed, and produces some kind of beam ahead and
behind,

One other question related to this beam; if it is projected ahead & behind for a very long distance,  what precausions
do you adopt to ensure that there is no one already ahead of you or behind you for the length of your beam, and
what would be the outcome if say another ship flew into this beam, or your beam so as to speak flew into another
ship?

Eaven the Vespucci with its matter collector is not alowed to operate it within if I remeber 50000 Km of a planatry
body !!?

What assurances can you give other Nations that this system can be safly operated, we already have seen a near
miss with one of the nations ships;

I am sure we all await further information from you about these points !

[Xianus]

The drive system was created from parts of the wrecked spaceship we found. Because of that, we do not fully
understand its working mechanism. After short period of laboratory testing we decided to test it in open space, away
from most popular space lines (the transport ship was later recognised as smugglers, and their ship was not
registered, so we were not able to detect them earlier)

The Beam is composed of what

Our experiments had proven, that the beam is tachyon origin. Thats why they can move so fast.

Why is the beam required behind

actually two beams are created: the "positive" in front, and the "negative" in the back of a ship. This way you can
control the direction of flight.

how is the movement achived

The positive beam is pushed by the negative one, and vice versa: positive pulls negative. The drive system(and the
ship ) is always between them. The beams must be exactly the same size, because the drive system would collapse if
their length would be different. Also, by saying "static", i mean that the acceleration is always static, because
all velocity changes are immediate. So, the ship moves along with the beams, and if i want to change the
speed, i change the energy and BLINK! your velocity immediately changes. No acceleration at all.
 
more power -> longer beam -> stronger pull/push force -> the quicker it goes.

What assurances can you give other Nations that this system can be safly operated

We have already tested it in our laboratories, and it was absolutely safe. The smuggler ship is another evidence
(unwanted volunteers )

[GW_Simulations]

UFMP forces have captured an unregistered Clydesdale class freighter that was in use for smuggling an illegal cargo
(details classified) between one of the objects in the Kuiper Belt, and a Main Belt Asteroid. There was light damage
that suggests it may have been affected by scraping along the side of another spacecraft at high speed, however
there does not appear to be any other damage. The crew have been handed over to the KBF, but we have taken the
decision to impound the ship and cargo.
It was captured trying to deliver it's cargo to the asteroid 243 Ida.

The ship will be repaired, and will then enter service as a freighter with the UFMP.
We are inviting the RRC to fly to the asteroid 243 Ida, where the ship is being held, to see if it was the one met by
their ship earlier today.

If it was, the propulsion system doesn't seem to have caused a problem.