orbital effects of Earth satellites

[Simonpro]

Google it.
And use meters dammit!

[freespace2dotcom]

Make me!  

[Simonpro]

Whats the radius of an atom (roughly), then freespace?

[Atom]

Calm down, and that's a shame, I like our moon.

[Simonpro]

Don't see anyone getting worked up anywhere.
And i wouldnt worry too much - itll be a while until we lose the moon, and we won't be around to see it leave either

[freespace2dotcom]

it depends on the atom.

I'll have you know you're pushing my math skills, but I don't care because I'm doing it to spite you.

for hydrogen, it's roughly 0.000000019812 inches (I even used decimal inches for you, aren't I
kind? ) but if you want fractions, then I rounded it to roughly 1/67108864 of an inch, though it's a bit more than
that.

(if you must know, 67108864 is actually 2^26)

freespace =
simon =
everyone else =

I know the answer you were expecting, and that's the one I found the easiest. 78 pico...somethings.. (insert
metric unit for distance)

Boy, I did a lot of math figuring that out, and just think of how much easier my life would have been if those pricks
would have just measured the damn thing in inches in the first place!

[reekchaa]

Heh !!!
  . . . (crazy american)  

[DocHoliday]

heh, fighting with a British, who originally INVENTED the measurement system

[freespace2dotcom]

DocHoliday wrote:
heh, fighting with a British, who originally INVENTED the measurement system

yes, yes. but HE didn't invent it, nor does he even use it, apparently.

I think I have a good chance of sounding intellectual and humbling him this time.

Don't spoil it for me, ok?

[DocHoliday]

freespace2dotcom wrote:

yes, yes. but HE didn't invent it, nor does he even use it, apparently.

True. This fact that he doesn't use it alone is both funny and grim for two reasons:
1. it should tell you something
2. it is sad people abandon "tradition"

Matter of attitude towards the matter.

I think I have a good chance of sounding intellectual and humbling him this time.
Don't spoil it for me, ok?

No, no, by all means, I'll just linger in the corner and smirk, while you two go "fencing" (oops, another topic!)

Cheers,

[Simonpro]

Its so easy to wind you guys up.
To be perfectly honest i am not overly fussed about what freespace uses, as long as everyone who i have to deal
with in my life uses metric i am happy.
You are out by an order of magnitude by the way, an atom is roughly 0.5x10^-10 meters.
I was expecting you to say "one angstrom" which would be right, and one of the few (semi) non metric units i use.
Unfortunately you used inches, so i couldnt illustrate my point, dammit!

doc,
1) what does it tell me?
2) horse and carts were traditional, so you'd ratrher have one of them than a car? :D
Cheers,
Simundo

[freespace2dotcom]

Honestly, I was fully expecting you to comment on something like that, simon. I only hunted down something on a
website I got on a google search. I guess it was wrong. which as a result made me wrong. I'm just too damn lazy
for my own good. I should have looked harder.

to be completely honest I have yet to mess around with atoms (save the one at this forum. hehe.) so I really have
little knowledge in that area.

I don't really want to get started on the swordplay again, but I tell you what...

You go weigh that thing your friend has, doc. and tell us the results of the endeavor. tell us in metric or traditional, I'll
convert it if I need to. I CAN do that if I have to, it's just that I'd rather not. anyway...

I remember some guy that made a toy-tessaiga. ( ,just a really big sword no further details needed.)

anyway, he commented on how it weighed 10 lb, just like his "real" katana.  no sword that heavy is of any use than
looking pretty. That said, if your friend has something that weighs something like that, it's just a sharp, pointy, piece
of metal. and not a katana!

(the one I currently have my eyes set on is just under 2 and a half pounds.. A direct result of the naysaying I've
gotten from you two. )

Oh, and simon, cars are now traditional, and it's probably why we all don't have personal helicopers right now.

I just wanted to restate that. and between you and me, I'd rather have a bike. far more lower mainanance than either horse or car.



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[DocHoliday]

Simonpro wrote:

doc,
1) what does it tell me?
2) horse and carts were traditional, so you'd ratrher have one of them than a car? :D
Cheers,
Simundo

ad 1. That was directed at Freespace. interpretation: "If a guy who lives in a country that founded the system
decides to use a more standardized system instead, this means eventually everyone will."
ad 2. This was meant as: "I THINK that is Freespace's point of view as to one of the reasons why one would want to
keep the older measurements."

Cleared up?

BTW: Incidentally, I don't have a car and no intention of buying it any time soon. I probably will wait for an electric or
fuel-cell powered CART too I would also settle for a horse, but it'd die of hunger while I'd play game on my computer,
so ...



Post Edited ( 10-28-04 11:15 )

[freespace2dotcom]

you know what, guys? the last thread we actually talked about metric and swords in, was ALSO about the moon!

I think there's a coincidence! (not to mention the total lunar eclipse that just happened!)



Post Edited ( 10-28-04 11:19 )

[DocHoliday]

hehe, neat. I always miss Moon eclipses

[freespace2dotcom]

the next one won't happen until 2007, I hear. it's always amazing seeing an orange moon.

[Travis Reed]

freespace2dotcom wrote:
Oh, and simon, cars are now traditional, and it's probably why we all don't have personal helicopers right now.
I just wanted to restate that. and between you and me, I'd rather have a bike. far more lower mainanance than
either horse or car.

I apologize for dragging up this old topic...
Freespace, I agree, bikes are also much less harsh on the environment...

[StarLost]

Travis Reed wrote:

I apologize for dragging up this old topic...
Freespace, I agree, bikes are also much less harsh on the environment...

Being an avid bicyclist (can't drive automobiles due to health restriction), you are "generally" right. However, I'm also an
avid hiker.  You should see the erosion damage on organized trails (and even non-organized ones) because of "trail" bicycles.

Many of the main hiking trails in Ontario now ban bicycles on them because of the issue.

As usual, the responsible riders are not the cause. It's the irresponsible fringe that thinks "extreme" sports are "cool" and
that it's alright to behave in an  anarchic manner.

I don't wish that they'd grow up, though. They never do. I just wish that they'd find that one leap too many ... sooner
rather than later.

[DocHoliday]

Yup, I also don't have a car. Used to have an old one, I was given by my parents. Then I had a rather light crash
(with a tree), but the repairs were worth more than the car which wasn't a lot anyway. Now, that I look back, I'm
actually glad I lost the car that way. Any other way and I probably wind up with serious injuries.. Not to mention the
car was an ecological nightmare. It was small, but drank a helluva lot of leaded fuel...

So now I use public transportation, taxi and god-given twin-horse power (da legz!) true I am rather restricted as
far as weekend trips go, but other than that I'm pretty much better off..

As for biking, as with most things.. Moderation is the key. If there were 100 bikers per year trekking, there're be no
noticeable erosion, but humans always overdo things....