Dan's Orbiter page
Orbiter English => Orbiter English => Topic started by: Travis Reed on 14 April 2005, 04:25:52
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In the interests of keeping the other thread from getting prohibitively long, I present to you, the third thread about
OSN.
Relavant data:
Current data (I'll keep these updated, possibly add a link or two):
OSN Website: http://www.vidmar.org/drupal
OSN Forum: http://travisserv.servegame.com:81/modules/forum/index.php
The OSN forum is up once again, but no telling for how long. If you find it is down, wait a few hours and check again
(someone here will occasionally turn off the internet...:( ) Also, the router and/or cable modem will occasionally have
issues and cut the net from my machine. 'Tis nothing that needs reporting (because if I can see the report, then likely
the problem is already fixed).
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Oh, the thoughts that are going through my head now.
I wonder if we're going get get even more "dansteph forum exclusive" threads with several sequals due to length...
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MadMike: There is already something like that coded by daver, though you have to pass collision detection code
yourself.
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Hi Freespace
the OSN thread will continue with many new starts because every one is posting here and not on OSN's site
and there are more and more people joining in
so its here untill Dan kicks it out ....!!
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Announcement.
Venus now has it's own national anthem. (it's legal, as it was written before copyright law.)
http://orbiter.vidmar.org/dg3/phmband.mp3
IGNORE the fact that this is docholiday's webspace. surely with all the traffic he gets, he'll never notice the extra
bandwidth. ;)
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Its too long, at half way through it grinds the brain (SWITCH OFF TIME)
nice try though.
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How dare you say that about the Venus March! :grrr:
;)
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It's true. :)
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I don't care. :music:
I like it a lot, and there's nothing you can do to change the fact that venus has an anthem now.
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freespace, following advices, i declare independence, and want to be free...
all ships are on alert, and if you accept without force, trades relations are not to be brocken
In case of military conflict, I am asking for any help in personnel, ships or supplies from other nations, since planetary
defence wasn't a problem...
to any other nations, i am in search of trade relations, needing uranium for powering installations
I'll gladly exchange for gold and iron in large quantities...
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i did a mesh, a config file, but how do i set position and hsip direction, mesh viewer doesn't want to open...
its good to have a ugly ship, but i would like it not to accelerate at left...
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Well, hell that was fast. I knew this was coming, but still...
you only waited a week or so before deciding to consolidate your power? :doubt:
bah. I won't accept this independance claim as is. ESPECIALLY right off the bat like this. :grrr: if you had waited a few
months, to prove your worth to me, I would have gladly surrendered it to you, but now it's too late, and you leave me
no choice.
Venus has put too many resources into mercury to just give it up like this.
If you want it so bad, you can have it, BUT you must agree to the following terms. NO negotiations on these.
1. All military installations and bases directly under control of venus prior to your.... coup d'etat... remain under control
by venus. those of partnership ventures between Venus and mercury will be surrendered to Mercury and those
already controlled by mercury remain so, though staff and personnel from all bases may choose to stay or leave along
with the convoys heading back to venus.
2. one quarter (1/4) of all Venusian gold and silver deposits in the bank of Mercury are to be withdrawn and
transported back to Venus immediately. One twelveth (1/12) of the original sum shall be withdrawn immediately and
freely donated evenly amongst all the nations who agree to be civilized and leave this discussion between Venus and
Mercury. Another two quarters (2/4, or 1/2) of the original sum to be withdrawn and transferred back to Venus in
varying amounts over time as I see fit. The remaining one sixth (1/6) of the original sum will be surrendered to the
Mercurian government, to be added to the already decent reserves available there. No interest shall be claimed by
venus on these deposits from this day up until they are withdrawn, so make it count.
3. The entire Venusian fleet stationed for Mercury's defense withdraws from Mercury in 5 days, as well as all Venuian
science vessels, with the exception of three battleships, which will be stationed in geo-syncronous orbits over the
three major venusian bases on Mercury. Mercurian vessels of all types will naturally stay in control of Mercury.
4. Venus reserves the right to patrol ALL trade routes of the inner solar system from .45 to .85 AU away from the sun.
5. Mercury may also ask for additional terms to amend to the agreement, as long as they do not countermand or
conflict with the previous terms of the treaty.
Through agreement of these terms by Mercury, Venus will surrender full sovereign right to rule of the Mercurian
people, as well as all rights and priveledges associated with such. Venus will also terminate all further claims to
territory on Mercury, and will offer exclusive territory for a Mercurian military base of moderate size anywhere on
Venus itself. (though it must not be built within 15 Venusian statuitory miles of any current Venusian settlement.)
[edit:] this post # equals my birth year. :) [/edit]
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What a coincidence free, mine too...
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freespace2dotcom wrote:
I don't care. :music:
I like it a lot, and there's nothing you can do to change the fact that venus has an anthem now.
As long as the rest of us dont have to hear it you can play it to your hearts content
its not ileagal between consenting adults....
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As long as the rest of us dont have to hear it you can play it to your hearts content
its not ileagal between consenting adults....
Well that's a little rude...
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oli_chose123 wrote:
i did a mesh, a config file, but how do i set position and hsip direction, mesh viewer doesn't want to open...
its good to have a ugly ship, but i would like it not to accelerate at left...
Oli
Orbiter has its own peculiar frame reference, what did you make the Mesh with, you probably need to rotate the mesh before
you export it
I use Anim8tor to build my craft, and after the mesh is finished I have to rotate X by +270 then export it as 3ds file
then with msh_maker2 change the 3ds file to Orbiter msh, I think you said you use milkshape, I dont have this so cant say
but I think you have the same problem, maybe some of the other guys have tried milkshape and can put you right here,
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FedExIII are interested in opening trade with you Oil, we need Iron/Steel/thermoplastic/ we can supply in exchange
Fuel of all kinds from our Orbital Production Facilitys, and later from our surfase Base on Mars once it is finished
we also have Medical facilities, and medical equipment/medcines, Transport services, Engine assemblys for all kinds of instalations from power generation plants, to Intergalactic Propulsion Units,
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As for Venuses demands
Maybe you should give him a firm date line where all his military bases should be removed, not a good idear to have all that hardware looking over your shoulder.
The federation are Sending I Agamemnon Battle Cruiser to your area with a trade reps and our minister of trade and his team to start negotiaions with you, we will also support your claim for independance in the Solar Council, as the president of GSI gave me full rights to speak for him during his absance, and I have not yet been informed of his return, I hearby declare that GSI will also support your claim infront of the council, and I am sure they also would be agreable to trade with you.
The Agamemnon will stay in your Orbit until you inform me otherwise, the (Capt Gengis Choen) has been informed to give you any assistance and support required,
MadMike
President FedExIII
and acting Designary for GSI
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Oli: LMC and SDLSF would like to open-trade with you. All kinds of minerals minable on moon count.
As for MV, try Zardoz's launcher (available at OH).
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MadMike wrote:
The federation are Sending I Agamemnon Battle Cruiser to your area with a trade reps and our minister of trade and
his team to start negotiaions with you, we will also support your claim for independance in the Solar Council, as the
president of GSI gave me full rights to speak for him during his absance, and I have not yet been informed of his
return, I hearby declare that GSI will also support your claim infront of the council, and I am sure they also would be
agreable to trade with you.
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I am back, but haven't had time yet to rejoin the proceedings here. I thank MadMike for his leadership in my absence
and confirm both notions FedExIII has forwarded in my name in my absence.
GSI salutes Mercury's call for independence and will keep a close eye on how VFC handles this first-time occurence in
our recent solar history. In light of Venus's (so far unexplained) misfortune we hope Mercury or any other nation will
not try to capitalize on it in ways that would directly harm Venus's integrity (althought I am sure Lord Freespace
might argue Mercury's secession might qualify as such). The future of us all depends on the outcome of this.
So far we observe the Venusian government's proposal to be legitimate, fair and generous. In fact, we of GSI are
impressed with Lord Freespace's masterly demonstration of tolerance, cooperation and clarity of thought. We will not
however partake in our share of the 1/12th of Venusian reserves currently stationed on Mercury and offered by
Venus to secure our blind eye to further proceedings. We will not mingle in the afairs of Venus and Mercury by
default, we will however to the best of our ability render assistence to maintain integrity of BOTH Mercury and Venus.
Our information suggests that the recent attack of Venus may be the result of an organised group operating in the
Core region (Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars) and the attacks may repeat or spread to other planets within the region,
possibly to the Outer planets' region. We will not go to such lenght as to classify the guilty parties as terrorists, but
they certainly seem to have an issue with the powers at be.
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She_Da_Lier wrote:
Oli: LMC and SDLSF would like to open-trade with you. All kinds of minerals minable on moon count.
As for MV, try Zardoz's launcher (available at OH).
Hi She.
You gave me the same info regards Your MeshVeiwer
but what and where is Zardoz's Launcher I have not been able to find it ?
one other point you may know the answer to
I have been using spacecraft modual for my ships, at the moment they have not been landers only deep space craft so it has
not been a problem, but I have been making this week 2 landers to replace the DG's and ShuttleA2's and both on re-entry and
lift off they go crazy , there is another generic module (Dev_ufo) that works but is a little restrictive in what you can do
with it, and althou I have MS Visual C++ now , it's a completly new concept for me and will propably some time before I can
write a C++ module, I can understand whats required by reading the Orbiter SKD and the DG source code but the C++ interface
baffles me somewhat at the moment,
what I need is a tutorial that takes you step by step in programing a ship module using MS C++
Cheers
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She_Da_Lier wrote:
Oli: LMC and SDLSF would like to open-trade with you. All kinds of minerals minable on moon count.
As for MV, try Zardoz's launcher (available at OH).
Hi She.
You gave me the same info regards Your MeshVeiwer
but what and where is Zardoz's Launcher I have not been able to find it ?
one other point you may know the answer to
I have been using spacecraft modual for my ships, at the moment they have not been landers only deep space craft so it has
not been a problem, but I have been making this week 2 landers to replace the DG's and ShuttleA2's and both on re-entry and
lift off they go crazy , there is another generic module (Dev_ufo) that works but is a little restrictive in what you can do
with it, and althou I have MS Visual C++ now , it's a completly new concept for me and will propably some time before I can
write a C++ module, I can understand whats required by reading the Orbiter SKD and the DG source code but the C++ interface
baffles me somewhat at the moment,
what I need is a tutorial that takes you step by step in programing a ship module using MS C++
Cheers
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freespace, i have no choice, i must accept your terms, but take no responsabilities to terorist attacks(you have
permission to open fire).
i will, however, take care of civil riot, i dont want any casualties.
you dont have the right to scan, or go in our territory... breaking this rule will result of the dstruction of any military
installations. We will not attempt to kick you out, neither attack you.
she da lier:
i would love to do buisness with you, its just that i cant find what mineral there is on the moon on the OSN website...
if you've got uranium, earth does not supply enough... and military ships, i need some
MadMike:
I just happen to
I am still in the process of designing a new class of battleship( madmike, i downloaded anim8or, and, i just forgot to
rotate it)
one other thing, in anim8or, is there a way to have more than cylinders and spheres???
Docholiday, i hope you do not accuse me of attacking venus, how could i get a fleet that big?
thanks a lot
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one other thing,
1: how do i had textures
2: i need other geometrics forms!!!!!!! like a cone,
3: how to modify height, and scale
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MadMike: Zardoz's launcher is available here: http://www.orbithangar.com/searchauth.cfm?search=Zardoz&Submit3=Search
As for coding, I suggest studying some examples from SDK first and reading the Guide.
I don't know about generic DLLs though.
oli: I can't help you with animator, I'm a gmax guy. As for what we deliever: cheap building materials, we mine some iridium
and also isolate hydrogen, helium, neon, carbon and nitrogen, minerals - PYROXENE (Ca-Mg-Fe-Si compound), PLAGIOCLASE (Na or
Ca - Al Silicates), OLIVINE (Mg-Fe silicate), ILMENITE (Fe-Ti Oxide) (correct me if I'm wrong about something) and also
produce some synthetic materials.
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If you've got anything that can do a nuclear fission, i really need power. (if you dont have any, i can take everything
else, i also need food[producton is low] and material for ship chasis, a new battleship class is being designed[just
need textures and some other things])
i can give you gold and iron, but our economy is in bad shape because of indepedence terms.....
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As for iron, we may need some, but we generally use own, cheap materials. About the rest, I told what I've got. We also offer
best freight in the solar system if you would be interested ;)
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I'll get a bit of everything, and i give gold, and a bit of iron
one thing i would like to discuss... weapons...
if i want to survive, i'll need defence, and top of the line technology
ive got the money, i can buy ships, because buildingthem is a bit too much expensive
i ca ngive hign ammount of gold in exchange for a big ship.
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why do i always find how to do something AFTER asking how to??????
i did a freighter that actually contain gold!!! if you zoom on it
and creating a VERY VERY ugly battleship
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I would want to join orbiter solar nation.
I could take the kuiper asteroids belt.
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(onboard the SS Terpathia)
The time had passed too slowly for Simon, but it was now time to prepare for MaOI (Mars Orbit Insertion).
And so, the appropriate systems were powered up, calculations made, ship oriented, engines burned, and then everything was
powered down again, although the radio reciever was left on.
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voangers: asteroids are (unofficially) taken by Dan's Astertoid Belt Confederatio (lack of N makes me mad too, tough english
is not my primary language :))
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unofficialy ? :doubt:
Haw sorry to not be here more often but you just need
to imagin that I beat you all and that's it... :)
(http://www.dansteph.com/publie/signatures/asteroid0.jpg)
(http://www.dansteph.com/publie/signatures/asteroid.jpg)
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The kuiper belt is not taken by dan. :grrr:
The ABC's borders are between Mars and Jupiter, but has no claims to anything beyond Neptune.
Though Dan isn't here often, I've been writing that he's been beating us. (or more specifically me.)
he just has to acknowledge it. Then we can have this solar system war as it was meant to be, and without all of this
politics stuff. :)
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Oh yeah, Dan DO say that you attacked and beat Freespace, we all have our military fleets ready to jump the ABC! We are just
WAITING for you to confirm! :) :)
;)
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So what is it, dan?
Are you really beating us, or is it all talk? :doubt:
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Oh, and by the way. OPA will protect any planitary systems that are attacked, but I refuse to engage the ABC
offensively. Just thought I'd let you know.
*Sit's in communications room awaiting transmissions*
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(onboard the SS Terpathia)
It is once again time to power up verious systems, this time in preparation to land. The power up procedure (which is now
second nature) goes flawlessly, as do the calculations needed for a reentry plan. The burn goes smoothly and the deorbit and
landing (directly at home) goes as planned. Once off his ship, Captain Simon Monroe stows it in the hangar and activates the
security system built by his father. He then heads into the house to watch the local Martian news...
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hi again
sorry, i was away all the day, but now i'm here.
Now that i know that nobady are claiming the kuiper belt, what i have to do?
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First, go to first OSN thread, copy and fill in and post your nation's form, than do the same on the official website (see
publications).
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for anybody who uses vinka's dll... is there a way, for payload, to use a .ini class?
i want to add torpedoes for my battleship, but it doenst take .ini files for my torpedo class
and cfg are too long and too complicated to do?is there any way to change that? or i must try a .cfg?
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ok, thank you SHE.
i have do that
KBF is officialy registred :)
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Vinka's DLL ships work fine as payloads. Just specify Spacecraft/Spacecraft as type and name is your ini name.
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Hi oli
Were you at boy
A cone is just a cylinder with one end smaller then the other !!
You can make just about any shape you need useing the primitives, just takes a bit of thought
as for scale, it already there (up,down, custom,)
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She
I have Gmax, but have been using Anim8tor
Anim8tor outputs 3ds files but I cant get them to load in to Gmax ?
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GENERAL TRANSMISSION TO ALL SOLAR MEMBER
From General Council
Galactic Federation III
We Have recived information that there is a company that has stated their intentions to establish a base on Mars
GSI and the Federation Control Mars and as far as I know there has been no request from settlers to come here
We have requested from GSI confirmation if or not they have given permission for this settlement.
we have no objections to other settlements here, but they must first go through the correct proccedures,
We are also informed that this company intends to establish a frieght company
THAT IS A BIG NO
The federation run freight/passanger services in this sector along with Lord She_Da_Leir on the Moon
I for one will not allow another operator in, and I am sure the Moons Govenment will not alow this either
The Federation here by give warning
WE WILL DESTROY ANY FREIGHTERS THEIR BASES AND ANY ORBITAL STAIONS ENGAGED IN OR GIVING SUPPORT
TO ANY COMPANYS OTHER THAT THOSE OF THE FEDERATION OR THE MOON THAT ATTEMPT TO RUN SOLAR FREIGHT
SERVICES OR PASSANGER SERVICES WITHIN 1 LIGHT YEAR OF MARS
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You're right, SDLSE have already defined war against them as you can read in the comment on the official site.
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The Galactic Federation And SDLSE make big claims.
Venus is not the kind of people to just sit idly by and let two monopolistic corporations hog all the freight within the
entire solar system, as venus would welcome seeing the extra competition. therefore, any non-moon/mars cargo
ships carrying venusian goods, as well as ANY non-moon/mars cargo ships operating within venusian territory will
now be under the protection of Venus. (Venus is free to do so, despite the fact that it is well under 1 light year from
Mars.)
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Better he settle on Venus then
the Federation will destroy any instalations he attempts to establish on Mars
He can carry any of your cargo he wishes but we will block any attempt by him to establish freighting services
in the Mars/Earth/Moon area
SDLSE & FedExIII have the largest fleets of transporters with established services, the new boy just aint
big enough to compete, we can undercut him, out trade him, and if nessasary kick his arse from here to Jupiter
As for Venus, well she just had her arse kicked, better she keeps quite for now and lick her scars
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you said 1 light year, so freight service is restricted in the entire solar system?
if there's war because of this, mercury will refuse any refugees, and will take side along fedexIII(its good to have
friends), and any ships that will scan kbf and mmc's freighters will be shot. These ships contain top secret farming
technology. In order to establish and to gain a good economy.
we also inform that tourism will be extremely limited, and venusian military bases are not to scan us. this will result in
armed conflict, and even if economy is in problems, our planetary defence system is perfectly operational, and kbf's
technology can destroy an entire fleet. We are not asking venusian people to leave, we will follow indepedence
terms, but venusians will not be accepted in mercurian cities.
we are also asking weapon trading from fedexIII, shipyards are running fast, but we need defence technology.
No military ships are to enter mercurian space.
thanks
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Heh, I don't know where you dug up that 1 LY thing, free..? :)
I have posted my official response on OSN. I think it's flexible enough to accomodate any kind of further
developments. Heh, I can barely keep up with you guys, specially you MadMike :)
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To MMC
From FedExIII
We Thank you for your declared support
We have no objections to the new boy setting up base on Mars or anywhere come to that
what we object to is that he did not follow procedures and request from GSI & FedExIII permission to do so
before people are allowed in we need to know something about them and what their intentions are regards trade / arms /
taxation / where they came from, how many of them, can they establish facilities, and support themselves, will they conflict
with the trade & political stand of the Federation and GSI,
Also The Federation and Lord She have spent vast fortunes in establishing freighting services in the Solar System
infact eaven the two of us have had our little grunt at each other over this issue, but at the moment we have a unofficial
agreement to tolerate each other, but more freight companys setting up would cause problems, It takes a long time for our
ships, eaven with their moden propulsion system to do a round trip of the Solar System, and to arrive at an orbital station
and find joe bloggs arrived last week and picked up all the shipments by undercutting our prices would kind of stick in the
throat somewhat,
We see that Lord She has declared war on them over the Transport issue, this would mean direct attacks by him on the Planet
Mars, this can not be allowed, before this we will take action and destroy them ourselves.
As for arms, we have a small production facility for this purpose, we had been hoping to run this down, but under the present
circumstances this will not be possible, before we can offer you anything we would need to know what kind of arms and what
facilitys you have to port them,( size/weight ect) planatry ot space borne
If for ship mounting we would need to know how much room is available for the actual weapon plus mountings and amo storage ?
what power facilitys you have to power them or do we have to supply power units as well.
Also we have to take council with the other nations, because we would not wish to start an arms race in the system
we wait your reply
MadMike
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about weapons, production of brand new stealth battleships and long range heavy fighters is running fine, and kbf is
delivering power cells
because of lack of rare resources, weapon production is impossible on mercury, and ship's weapon turrets are
needed.
We need top of the line weapons, ion, plasma, and some torpedoes. kbf supply uranium, so thermo-nuclear weapons
aren't needed. We could trade some DG for weapons, they aren't needed anymore, same from our shuttleA.
we are making a big change in our society, and are trying to implement high tech within the population.
but for now, weapons are a priority, who would want a venusian raid to take back their claim.
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Monday, 20:23, Earth Time, New Washington, Mercury
somewhere in a laboratory...
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In the dark laboratory, two scientists sit before their computer.
"You don't understand, say one of them, that's the fifth time we try it.
It's not going to work.
-I am sure of it, if we modify the proton variable, the quantum matrix will not destabilise,
and we will get our hyprspace vortex stable.
-It's not going to work...
The second one enters the data in the computer, and take a confortable stance.
-It'S going to take some time, you want something to eat?
-Didn't you say you stopped that junk food? it'S not good for...
The computer starts making strange noises.
"Oh my god, we did it!!!
-We are going to win a nobel prize!!!
-We are going to be rich!!!
-Partner, we did it! We just found how to go travel one light year/minute!
Everything explode, the two scientists die on the shock, and all data is destroyed.
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...Mercury Central News confirms it, the two scientists who were working on quantum space propulsion died
with the destruction of their lab, one hour ago, the cause of the explosion in unknown... wait a minute,
we are receiving a transmission, a Kuiper Belt Federation ship reported seeing a venusian scout leaving mercury's
orbit
seconds after the incident. Mercurian fleet is on full alert, and all weapons are locked
on venusian bases based on mercury. Commander oli_chose123 will make an apparition on MCN in five minutes.
This could mean war for mercury and venus...
The commander appeared on all mercurian screens, looking tired.
"To all mercurian citizens, our search indicate that the venusians are responsible,
and will suffer the consequences. We are asking all nations' support to help resolve this problem.
for now, all venusians are asked to leave, or will be executed. transports are waiting
in hangar 4, 5 and 9 at the Mercurian Main Spaceport. We hope we will survive this,
because war is inevitable. We are supported by KBF, who will put their fleet at our disposition.
Good luck citizens. We are still there to protect you."
[WITH STATIC] TRANSMISSION'S END
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Venus had nothing to do with any of that.
In fact, all of our convoys have already departed, and we're fully busy restoring Venus after the mysterious attack we
suffered through.
We don't have time to bother in other's business, nor would we want to.
Be warned, any attack on Venusian installations will result in our reducing mercury to the smallest planet in the solar
system. We aren't interested in a war, but now that we've got our full defense force orbiting one planet, instead of
divided amongst 2, We're ready for any challenge some warmongering newcomer might throw at us.
Our salvaging operation was also very successful, my flagship, the carrier/battleship Yamato, has been recovered
and is currently being refit with the latest technology.
that being said, can't we all get along? :rant:
Post Edited ( 04-19-05 08:52 )
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OMNIDIRECTIONAL TRANSMISSION TO ALL NATIONS
Perhaps this is another bold undertaking of the Venusian "pirates" or whatever we will call the mysterious attackers
of Venus.
GSI has made no progress in uncovering the identity, purpose and location of this para-faction. We urge other
nations to focus their intelligence efforts and report any findings. The security of the Solar System is at stake.
Whoever is responsible, they obviously want to turn the major powers against eachother. Do not let them succeed.
We do not need another war, especially if it is based on faulty assumptions, misunderstanding and bad recon.
Sincerely yours,
President DocHoliday of the GSI
Off-story remark:
hehe, when you think about it, you come to appreciate the difficult job Earth politicians actually have. I mean, there is
like 10 of us here and look what kind of a mess we are able to cook up. Imagine Earth with its 200 odd nations which
are not necessarily friendly towards eachother by default as we are here, due to history and whatnot. ALSO, here we
can make up any kind of military we want and can feel reasonably safe, in real-life though there are nations who are
militarily obviously weak and those who are dominant. I can see quite clearly how and why the strong would feel the
need to keep a tight grasp on the weak, while the weak would do anything to feel safer, even resort to terrorism-like
actions to gain that... good learning experience this OSN, innit? :)
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GENERAL TRANSMISSION TO ALL NATIONS & COMPANYS
From FedExIII
The Federation will support MMC in their times of trouble, there are now 2 Agamemnon Heavy Crusiers In Orbit around Mercury
for the asistance of MMC they will respond to any act of agression against MMC Instalations or Ships, warnings will not be
given, justice will be swift.
The Agamemnon's carry with them 10 brand new FedFighters ( 5 each ) and 1000 Storm Troopers, they also have food & medical
supplies, the FedEx-02 Hospital Ship is also on route,
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To Capt. Monroe
Due to the possible arrival of undesirable immigrants to Mars, the Agamemnon 4 is now patroling in Mars Orbit, we have at
this time no quarral with you, but kindly request you inform us if you intend to leave your base, we would not wish to open
fire on your ship by mistake, it is not required that you file a full flight plan , just your orbital assent details, we also
take this opportunity to welcome you back home,
The undesirables are called SFC and have stated they will settle on Mars, they give coords 00.00 x 000.00, as their base
site, both the FedExIII and Lord She. have declared war on them for commercial reasons, their ships and Bases will be
destroyed as soon as they are deployed in Mars Orbit or on any attempt to land in any other place than FederationIII Home
base, or GSI Facilities.
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To The Venus Govenment
We do not wish to engage you in conflict, but we will not let you force your selves upon those persons who would rather you
departed from their lands, we understand from your last transmissions that you are in the proccess of evacuating all your
peoples and materials from Mercury, this is a good start on your part, and shows that you have some respect for other
nations, we hope it can stay that way.
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To Central Earth Council
The Galactic Federation III is now in the prosess of setting up a Earth Base as a trade and embassy the position chossen is
that known as Grand Imperial bases ( Sydney/Mellville), a small delegation will arrive in 5 days to start the arrangements,
as always The Federation salute you, and will uphold your independance and non commitment in Solar matters,
====
End of Transmission
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### INCOMING TRANSMISSION ###
Tranmission to FedExIII,
from Lord She'Da'Lier.
That's right, we're on war with SFC, but that doesn't mean direct attacks on mars. Although any SFC's ship in fire range will
be engaged.
How about establishing Free Transport Guild (something like UP)? Then we could crush the competition. Of course that doesn't
mean SDLSE will let you get the sector, but we could give up military conflict for now. You can also have controll over
passanger sector, SDLSF isn't interested in it for now.
### TRANSMISSION ENDS ###
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To Lord She'Da'Lier
From MadMike
I have no intentions of trying to push you out of the transport buisness, and I agree to form a Transport Guild with you
at the moment I have 4 large InterGalactic Class Transporters, and It is the intention to set up a liner service with them
They will perform a circuit of all planets stopping in orbit to load and unload any cargos available, as you can see this
will take some time to perform, this is why there are 4 of them, they are not fast but they are big, and can carry all kinds
of products, from ore in bulk to liquids and gasses, containers, and heavy machinery, It was indended that these 4 service
the outer planets with the federations orbital1 station as the terminal from the inner planets, I have also 6 small fast
freighters, that were to serve the inner planets and also terminate at the orbital station, these ships can be sold and you
could control the inner planet freight, using Fed-Ex-Orbital1 to transfer the cargos for the outer planets to my ships, at
the same time picking up cargos for the inner planets that has arrived from the outer system, like this we could set a price
for the freight rates,
There will always be small outfits that would carry their own products, or the independant with 1 ship running freight, but
these should not worry us, and in the end they would not be able to offer the same terms as us.
As for the passanger services, our ship is not finished yet, and would only run in conjunction with the holiday complex
planed on Mars, but that is also the future,
GSI has stated that they will do nothing about this SFC and their Freight Plans, It will be unwise to take any direct action
against them on Mars, but ships do dissapear in space, and Mars is quite a dangerous place and accidents are prone to happen
if you dont take care !!!!!
Let me know what you think about this proposal
Yours With Respect
MadMike
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Tuesday, 20:23, Earth Time
Mercury Sector
________________________________________________________
(radio transmission)Bravo one, this is central control, you're cleared for take-off
-Central control, this is bravo one, flight plan transfered, heading for light speed travel.
-bravo one, this is central control, good luck.
-Lieutenant, initiate Engines, prepare for jump.
-Yes captain, preparing to... wait a minute, detecting multiple signals on short range sensors.
-How could they get that near withoug being detected?
-It looks like they have some kind of stealth technology, we can't get a clean reading.
I can jsut say they're heavily armed, sir.
-All hands, battle stations, this is not a drill. Commander, load foreward rocket tubes.
-sir, these are the same ship designs that attacked venus.
-They're shooting! Incomming torpedo!
-Send a message to Commander oli_chose123, we found the pirates who attacked venus...
_______________________________________________________
-Commander, we are receiving a message for you.
-In my room
[STATIC]Sir, we found some heavily armed ships that correspond to the venusians's attackers.
-I'll contact the venusians, can you send me an image of them?
[STATIC]Picture sent sir... We are continu...[EXPLOSION]
-Captain? Captain! damn it... Let's seee that picture... OH my god!
[pressing the communication button]lieutenant, send me the fleet captain.
I want to know why these are our new ships on this picture...
If venus were to know that...
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To MadMike:
I agree with your terms, though SDLSF will also continue flights on demand to outer planets. We're planning to enlarge our
Europe-class freighters fleet, as we have only one now.
I suppose we can assume Free Transporters' Guild officially formed.
Additionaly, we should put on some sanctions on Venus, what do you think?
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[b]to Lord She'Da'Leir
[/b]
OK agreed
we also have some freight contracts from Earth, we would have given them to you but we keep them like
you will your outer planet contracts
The Mars Orbital Station is free for your use, you only pay the services you ask for ( fuel/repairs etc) docking fees are
free likewise cargo transfer costs, for cargos loaded into federation ships for outer planets and cargo from outer planets
transfered to your ships inward bound.
Fuel will be at Cost (no taxes)
as our transporters will no longer call at the inner planets we will need to rearange the flight rotas, but we hope in the
end, once we have a few more ships to set off every 28days from Mars Orbital to the outer planets, you will need to have any
transfer cargo available here 4 days before, and will recive cargo for the inner planets at the same time.
not sure about the "Free" bit in the name, sounds cheap and may give people the wrong idea how about
"The Solar Transporters Guild"
as for sanctions on Venus
This is a tricky situation, we are already sending aid to Venus because of their late problems, it would not be right to
stop these now, but trade, transportation services, could be blocked untill he learns to keep out off other peoples hair,
MadMike
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Or how about "Independent Tranporters Guild"? ;)
I would agree to lead in an embargo over Venus after this post:
he Galactic Federation And SDLSE make big claims.
Venus is not the kind of people to just sit idly by and let two monopolistic corporations hog all the freight within the
entire solar system, as venus would welcome seeing the extra competition. therefore, any non-moon/mars cargo
ships carrying venusian goods, as well as ANY non-moon/mars cargo ships operating within venusian territory will
now be under the protection of Venus. (Venus is free to do so, despite the fact that it is well under 1 light year from
Mars.)
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to Lord She'Da'Lier
Ok thats a wrap, we go like this
it was just that free sounded like open to all
Independant sounds like one of many other frieght lines
I just thought that solar gave the impression that in this system you have no other choise, but never mind I go with
independant. because I will make sure there are no others, space is large and dangerous accidents can happen
I will also join you in a embargo on Venus
he will pay dear for frieght movements for a long time, for the moment all support and aid is withdrawn from Venus
I wil start by blockading all inbound freight traffic to Venus
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Thanks to madmike i can now make addons!!!
ok... textures are ugly, and the frigate looks like a gun, but for now, these are the official mercurain corvette and frigate.
This is the Mercurian corvette
(sry for the 1024/768)
(http://img242.echo.cx/img242/4407/corvette8pe.jpg)
And this is the Mercurian Frigate
(http://img242.echo.cx/img242/8520/frigate6cr.jpg)
Post Edited ( 04-20-05 03:24 )
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The KBF want to buy a few of thoses ships to reinforce its fleet
Commander voangers806 of the Kuiper Belt Federation
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I would agree to lead in an embargo over Venus after this post:
BAKA-Tachi ni....
You mistake Venus for modern day america, as in being a major trader, with massive trade deficits, and messing in other's affairs by attacking them. We are only wishing to even the playing field for THOSE WHO CANNOT DIRECTLY COMPETE AGAINST SUCH MONOPOLISTIC CORPORATIONS!
And to think that DocHoliday lets that FedEx stay on mars. Doesn't he know that an almost barter-like economy isn't in the interests of capitalistic corporations of that stature?
Everything we Venusians need, we make ourselves. Foreign companies looking to establish themselves on Venus face the strictest regulations, and by and large, are few and far between. Tariffs are enormous, protecting local industry, and thus acts as a natural deturrant to trade already, yet you boldly try to threaten us Venusians by trying to cut off something that really doesn't exist in the first place.
the few resources that aren't abundant on venus, we transport ourselves. We don't need greedy middlemen sucking
up our wealth.
That being said, let the monopolies fall. They'll get no pity from us.
Long live free enterprise!
Post Edited ( 04-20-05 09:19 )
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I don't see this as free enterprise, this is reminisant of the old USSR socilist times
Close the door and try to make out that there is nothing outside better than you already have
spend the wealth of the nation on massive arms projects, and let the people starve
Your arms are not for the stated protection of your planet, but to control your own people and threaten other nations
to bend to your will, from the very first you stated that your missiles were aimed at all other Solar Nations, for what
reason, except your own fear that you are unable to compete, or that your people may become dissatisfied with what you can
offer and look elsewere.
eaven your first statement (You mistake Venus for modern day america, as in being a major trader, with massive trade
deficits, and messing in other's affairs by attacking them. We are only wishing to even the playing field for THOSE WHO
CANNOT DIRECTLY COMPETE AGAINST SUCH MONOPOLISTIC CORPORATIONS!) is proof that you live in the past not the future,
your statement reflects the situation in 2005 not 2105.
It is not possible in these times to live secluded from the rest of humanity, the Earth became to small for mand kind, and
the Solar System will at some time be in the same book, we should not spend all our time reinventing the wheel, if someone
has established service that is capable of supplying the total demand, of the solar system, back off, because if they have no
competition in this field they can maximise their resorces and give a cheaper service to all, look elsewere for a service
not yet covered and do the same with this, you have MMC screaming for someone to give him power production equipment, this
could be another possibility for somebody else to jump in and provide a service !!.
So now you can maybe see more clear were FedExIII are looking, not for today, not how much we can cram in the bank, but how
can we make the Solar System and beyond a better place for all humanity regardless of race or creed, unfortunalty this means
the eradication of all the old values, and those that can not look out beyond their own interests
must be re-educated, it will take time ( maybe to much time) but there must be a start today, tomorrow my be to late !!
MadMike
President Galactic Federation III
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Sound's like someone's getting a bit too cocky.
Communism, INDEED! (You're insults are starting to really tick me off in-character) Our doors aren't closed. We just
refuse to blindly blend in with everyone harmoniously. by the way, Where the hell have I mentioned aiming missiles
at the other nations, hmmmm!?? :grrr: I did a search myself, thinking I may have said such a thing in jest, but found
only two matches to "solar nations" and "missiles". one was your last post, and another was from atom. Even that
was mostly for fun, as in was only us having fun at the time. I demand an apology for this accusation you throw at me.
The EIA (Europan Intelligence Agency) would like contact with any freelancer that has stealth ability. We
would like to buy your technology for a hefty fee. It will go towards a....project....involving...er....missiles
.
Why NOT let big corporations milk the people by rooting out all local competion through cheap prices,
then jack up the prices like there's no tommorrow when there's no one left?
because it's not fair to the local people. The people who I cater to, and hold responsibilty to. That's why we
don't let others in so easily. Exactly where have I said that I starve my people? Where have I said that I spend all
money on massive war projects at their expense?
I only speak of warships and such now because of the political climate. I don't care about the mercurians anymore.
they do their own thing. The Martians too, and so on, and so on.
If there's anything that can't be made in Venus, we let our own people in on it first, and only tolerate so much
competition as to prevent it before our market becomes like california and hawaii in america today, signifigantly
foreign owned. It's economic suicide. I will not tolerate such things.
proof that you live in the past not the future, your statement reflects the situation in 2005 not 2105.
The wisest of people look to the past in order to understand the future. I'm not claiming to be the wisest, but I'll be
damned, before I become the most foolish. I'm a traditional person. sure. I'll admit that I'm a bit ecccentric. who else
would keep a traditional system of measurement when everybody else is going metric?
I like to see it as most people would prefer to stick with what they know. And I'm one of them, I even go so far to as
to prevent mandatory conversion forced on the masses by a handful of people who wish to increase their profits.
I stand before the other nations of the solar system here and ask: Who else uses commodities to back their currency?
Or does everyone believe that their government is going to be able to back all of it's money through faith alone when
the currency increases in supply by over 1.5% every year? and it's a bad thing to give the people something of
tangible value to use as money? HA! I do it because I care for them, and would expect, (though not necessarily trust)
another ruler to do the same for me.
You say that I cling to old values. that much is true. I will never deny that. But I cling to them because I see value in
them. I see value in them because they limit the power of those who seek it most. Thus truly making the people of my
nation TRULY free. free from those who would try to usurp that power, both foreign and domestic.
To be quite honest with you, I only trust most people as far as I can throw them. I can respect everyone, but
I'm NOT going to hold hands with them. I'm human, such is life. I mind my own business, and others should stay out
of mine.
the reason why I wish to break up your "futuristic happy" monopoly is becuase you threaten venusian interests by
raising shipping costs throughout the solar system. Even if venus itself doesn't use your services, others do, and so
we will have to pay extra indirectly when we acquire outside goods. this is unacceptable.
Venus makes it's own goods, for it's own people. We're the most independant of ALL planets now because of that.
Being independant is important, as it prevents relying on others, thus, being forced to do their bidding in order to
receive that help.
look elsewere for a service not yet covered and do the same with this, you have MMC screaming for someone
to give him power production equipment, this could be another possibility for somebody else to jump in and provide a
service !!.
you forgot to mention that only YOU will be able to ship this power equipment to him because of your refusal to allow
other shipping companies into the fray. You could charge as much as you wanted to ship it too them, because there's
nobody else to do it. Oops... didn't want to rain on your parade... :(
These are your new improved and modern values!? F*** that! This is capitalism as seen in america today. It's as
corrupt as it gets! I do not consider my people socialistic, we're not extremes in either direction. as we do believe in
pay by the hour, and private ownership and all that.. but we don't have a stock market, and other such things.
Here on venus, you can get anything that you can get on the other planets. A Venusian toaster costs the same to the
average consumer as a Martian one. A Venusian power converter costs the same as a Europan one. If for some
reason, foreign prices raise too high in comparison to local prices on something, then we ease the tarriffs on the
particular item. we do this because in order to have TRUE EQUALITY, all players must be on the same playing field
.
treat people truly fair, as you would so claim to, or I won't forgive you and your corporation.
I am mostly unconcerened with people of any race, or creed, on anywhere but venus*, we simply have no
jurisdiction elsewhere, nor care to. We're not the solar system's policemen. When something threatens
my people, and their interests I will fight for them until the end. We have no real committments to the solar
system, and it's just the way we prefer it. Mars deals with mars, mercury with mercury, (as I have promised, I will
leave them be. The main reason I even wanted those bases on mercury was to allow Venusian citizens a place to
seek refuge if they're unable to leave the planet during a crisis.) earth with earth, and so on.
If we were bleeding hearts, caring for the whole solar system, we'd become the most hated nation in the solar
system. Look at Iraq, (as of today, OOC) americans decided to "liberate" them, and what good did that do? IF the
Iraqis truely appreciated being free of Sadam, then they wouldn't be still fighting, american troops'd be on the way
home by now, and america wouldn't be bleeding itself dry trying to fix the problems in one country. These are
the fruits america chose to reap by doing so. It's folly, anybody can see that. I'm not going to do that omongst the
solar system, either.
and that ends that. My ideals are old, but those who wish to "re-educate" (brainwash) my people with this new-age
BS, will answer to me, and my big katana. Have a nice day. :)
*venusian citizens abroad also apply.
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I stand before the other nations of the solar system here and ask: Who else uses commodities to back their
currency?
I do. My economy works as barter economy WITHIN GSI and works as market economy OUTSIDE GSI. No money
required on Mars, but we take taxes and pay fees with whatever monetary units the agreement specifies. We keep
the barter and the monetary economy independent of eachother to prevent economic collapses. The drawback is,
that we also cannot have economic booms as were known in Earth's past. But we have learned to live with a stable,
yet low economic growth. We live long lives, so anything is achievable :)
I usually do not agree with Lord Freespace, but I agree with most of what he said. I will not go into an passionate
debate about it, but I've come to realize there are two types of leaders in the Solar system and they correspond
directly to the type of faction they lead, which also makes perfect sense. One are national leaders, the other are
corporate leaders. Our values, principles and methods of doing things are by definition different and will never be
completely compatibile. While national leaders seek peace, stability, prosperity, quality of life and affordable products
and services, the corporate leaders probably seek competition, expansion, purchasing power (not to be confused
with prosperity!), mechanisms to promote consumption and cost-effective products. The philosophies are similar, but
come from two different directions. One is happyness-motivated, the other is profit-motivated.
And it is the way it should be until we develop a better system. It is also important to note than one cannot exist
without the other. You cannot have happyness without profit and you cannot have profit without happyness. You
cannot have peaceful, prosperous and happy people if you don't have big corporations who are able to mass produce
goods and services. On the other hand a corporation cannot exist unless there are people who belive they can
achieve peace, prosperity and happyness through work....
So we are forced to coexist and find a workable solution... I have no problems with monopolies (especially natural
monopolies (look up the term if you don't know what I'm talking about) - because they are actually more effective
than free market), IF and only if they don't abuse their power and they work with nations for the good of all.. (which
is why I wont butt my nose into FedExIII-SDL-SFC disputes).
In return I demand that corporations do not meddle into political and national matters of the states, because
business institutions code of conduct by definition does NOT include ethics, care for the citizens and similar things,
simply because they do not have to - if they do that though, it is just to increase productivity and efficiency (which is
why I cannot have a corporation run the show on Mars with me, coz Martians will pay the price when the fertilizer
starts hitting the ion exhaust). Nations are charged with ethics and care for citizens.. and are generally lousy at
making profit as all of us know :)
If we can keep these interest separate, we will all be happy.
President DocHoliday, GSI
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that we also cannot have economic booms as were known in Earth's past. But we have learned to live with a
stable, yet low economic growth. We live long lives, so anything is achievable
hehe..
Venus isn't known for having economic bubbles, either. thatnkfully, though, we don't have the bust cycles that usually
follow them. :)
(http://img259.echo.cx/img259/9787/thewaytogrowpoor2cthewaytogrow.jpg)
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OOC: Yay, Freespace and Doc are back to writing essays! :)
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MadMike wrote:
GENERAL TRANSMISSION TO ALL SOLAR MEMBER
From General Council
Galactic Federation III
We Have recived information that there is a company that has stated their intentions to establish a base on Mars
GSI and the Federation Control Mars and as far as I know there has been no request from settlers to come here
We have requested from GSI confirmation if or not they have given permission for this settlement.
we have no objections to other settlements here, but they must first go through the correct proccedures,
We are also informed that this company intends to establish a frieght company
THAT IS A BIG NO
The federation run freight/passanger services in this sector along with Lord She_Da_Leir on the Moon
I for one will not allow another operator in, and I am sure the Moons Govenment will not alow this either
The Federation here by give warning
WE WILL DESTROY ANY FREIGHTERS THEIR BASES AND ANY ORBITAL STAIONS ENGAGED IN OR GIVING SUPPORT
TO ANY COMPANYS OTHER THAT THOSE OF THE FEDERATION OR THE MOON THAT ATTEMPT TO RUN SOLAR FREIGHT
SERVICES OR PASSANGER SERVICES WITHIN 1 LIGHT YEAR OF MARS
I suppose, like SDL's policy, this means even ships with the cargo/passenger carrying capacity of the DG3?
If that is so then captain Monroe will have to have some words with the local authorities (as he was
on Mars first. You just don't see him making statements like that (whether he could carry such threats out or not is up
for some creative speculation, the truth will hopefully, never be known...)
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And of course, now I make my way to the end of the page, Though I've now read Mike's message to me, my above
comment still applies.
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Krytom wrote:
OOC: Yay, Freespace and Doc are back to writing essays! :)
Oh gawd, I actually had enough time to be drawn into it again ;)
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To Capt. Monroe
You are not subject to any action and your right to habit Mars is not a point of issue.
In fact we admire your freedom , it reminds us of how we started after fleeing The Great War, but we have now grown into a
sizable community and it is impossible to continue along those lines, we need to settle and expand to give our people a
decent way of life and secure the future for our children, some people try to say we are just interested in self profit, but
that is not true, we care about our people and the well being of all in the Solar system, but we live in a real world that is
growing fast, and not in the dream of what might have been, man must look forward not back, the past gave us knowlage about
things that could not work, we have to take notice of this and build a better place for our children, because for us it is
already to late.
I just require you lets us know when you intend to lift off or to land at Mars, until this affair with SFC is resolved
normal flights like those of GSI and FedExIII can be identified but you do not fly by the book, always in and out like a
shadow in the night, we would not like to cause you harm because some junior capt. gets nervous and opens fire.
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Transportation issues
People that use DG's to run small ammounts of cargo/passangers for themselves or other persons do not pose a problem for the
Transport Guild, the ammount that they can shift and the time & distance they need to do this is means their price must be
much higher than ours, also people that operate small cargo ships do not present a major problem because they also have a
large cost overhead, these kind of operations are not subject to our attention, althou they might find it more adventageous
to join the Transport Guild
The FedExIII class 86 Cargo Liner can shift 100,000 tons of mixed cargo type at 1 time, and is fast, with the new
photon/Alpha drives developed by the Federation Shipyards.
Lord She'Da'Leir's new class of frieghter is still I belive under development and I have no information about its specs but
you can be sure that it will be big and fast, and carry a large payload,
we can offer a regular service, pick up and drop cargos in orbit for your own retrival/conveniance and at a price per ton
quite a lot smaller than anyone else,
If you look at this issue in real time ( or even in the past ) you will see that over capacity in a given market does not
lead to cheaper prices or inproved facilitys, infact just the reverse.
And this is even more critical when both the companys are sitting next to one another, now if he had decided to settle on one
of the outer planets then things would have been different, because we could have then worked together to the benifit of all,
But at the Moment I still stick with SDL over this issue and will not accept anothe transport company to opperate out of Mars
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To : MMC
copy to : All Nations/Companys
From : FedExIII
due to Venus having agreed to withdraw from Mercury in and orderly and peacefull manner, we hereby recall the 2 Agamemnon
Cruisers, they will resume patrol around Mars keeping an eye out for intruders that may try to settle here without permission,
we wish the new rulers on Mercury all the best and will give any assistance & aid that they may need in their struggle to
establish a new nation,
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To : SFC
we have not see any more comunication from you regards your intentions, but we assume you have read our messages and those
from GSI and The Moon Govenment, be awear that we still disaprove of your setting up a freight company here but we will step
back a bit an await developments.
To : GSI
Please to inform us as to the situation regards SFC
have you had any responce from them regarding their proposals
MadMike
FedExIII General Council
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to FedEx:
I have no interest in setting up a freight company, especially on mars. (I really couldn't, as I'm the leader of a nation,
and not a company) If you wish to keep others from setting up on mars, then that's between you and GSI.
I only care about you trying to keep others from starting up as far as "one light year" from mars. (which is the whole
solar system) We wish to support many companies, without favoring one.
If venus was to become the host of a transport company similar company to fedex, and the leader of said company
wanted to expand on mars, that would be between you two, and maybe GSI itself.
That is my position.
have a nice day.
(glad to see the tension decrease for once...)
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Hello there.
The Integrator is nearly done, I just need to split things together.
Anyone would like to beta test it?
The current thing is limited to Earth, Moon and Mars, but it just needs editing config files.
Also you can't set own planets/moons yet.
.NET Framework may be required to run it.
Also I've still got to write a scripting manual for it.
Things done so far:
-Scenario plotting
-Config plotting.
-Unzipping - Used a free LGPL proggy. Also you cannot use folders in your zip file or the temponary folder cleanup will screw up.
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She_Da_Lier wrote:
Also you cannot use folders in your zip file or the temponary folder cleanup will screw up.
Sounds dangerous. :wonder:
I'll beta test it if it is safe.
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Nah, it's safe.
I'll send it to you when I've got things split together.
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I've got some internet downloading routines (using .net framework) ready, expect update feature.
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To : All Solar Nations
not sure if I have a coms problem here
but there appears to be a complete standstill with regard to the nations
Has there been a total war last week that I missed while away a few days
and all the nations are wiped out !!!!
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Maybe we've entered the equivalent of the dark ages. Nothing happens for thousands of years.........
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such is life..
I'll work on some story or such later..
Post Edited ( 05-07-05 02:01 )
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Aye, guilty as charged. I admit I only checked here and OSN site a few times in the past couple of weeks. I guess that's
normal and such things are basically driven by the main players, who occasionally need to take a break.
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It's been so long since you last posted doc, I was begninning to worry about you. ;)
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Yeah I know. It's tough. Once you stop posting constantly for one reason or another you find it very hard to get back
in the loop. Mentally mostly.
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I agree with that mostly, but my main reason for slowing down has been the lack of posts by others to respond to. :)
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sry, i got some computer problems and didnt have time to check the forums... but im back now
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I've got ASP scenario maker in progress, as well as an uploader.
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well guys , my 2 months leave is up so back to the ship
this means my input will be very limeted for now
the federationIII has 3 programs underway
1. the freight service is now orerational to all outher planets except Venus ( embargo still in force)
contact FedExII, SDL, or ITG for details
Service leaves Orbital2 (Mars) each 56 days
2. There is a possibility of a rail line between FedExIII Base and GSI Base
Provided GSI agrees
3. FedEx77 Star Cruiser has left today to explore the Outer Rim Worlds after reciving radio signals as yet un deciphered
from this region.
to GSI
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Please to look after FedExIII interests on Mars at the Solar Council untill I can get back on line
(Note
we still do not agree with another large Freight company set up on Mars)
to SLD
Please take care of FedExIII interests regarding Freight Services proposed by other companys and also
ITG, we agree with anything you do in this respect, and you can call on the 4 Agememnon Battle ships to support
you if required
MadMike
President Galactic Federation III
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To FexEd:
We'll take care of your business.
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take a look at this
i good way to represent warfare in OSN, if only a war would start, i used particleillusion to make the particle effect(its
better when its a video... but.. this is a forum...)
would be fun if OSN's history would be in color!!!
here you ca nsee my ugly corvette shooting a Agamemnon Battleship from babylon 5
http://[img]http://www.yourimagelink.com/uploads/a12a8f4489.jpg[/img]
jsut say what you think of my idea(will also give more life in the dying topic...)
Post Edited ( 05-12-05 01:02 )
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heee how come theres 2 pictures? i didnt put 2 links??????
EDIT:no more problems...
Post Edited ( 05-12-05 01:02 )
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Looks like you're attacking one of FedEx's battleships.
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hehe.. whoops. :lol:
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For some time now, MMc shipyards are on use day and night(ok ok there's no day and night in space..........) in the
construction of a huge(i said HUGE) fleet of cheap ships, almost 350 ships. Ships are cheap(and ugly), poor hull
rating, but fast, and very high tech weaponry given by KBF.
I think, to give life to these forums, we could have a war
i just need a target lol
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Than, you have to know that SDLSE shipyards are working with maximal construction speed, releasing 15 ships daily (earth
time), and we already have 400 drednaought ships as displayed in the previous thread.
Post Edited ( 05-13-05 14:46 )
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OPA has joined this arms race, but only to ensure the protection of all states and moons in the Alliance's systems.
All shipyards are on maximum output. 8)
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As Venus doesn't have a central bank, and thus doesn't have access to an unlimited amount of inflation-creating
funds, we won't take part in the creation of large fleets. Only a select handful of new ships will be built to help
balance the numbers somewhat. We may or may not purchase additional ships from other powers, but if we do, it will
be a fairly insignificant number.
Our older ships are being retrofitted, however, with the latest technology to make us smaller, but allow us to retain
our status as major power nonetheless.
Our oldest ships (more than a few are old earth military ships from colonization days.) are in the process of being
scuttled to help provide the resources for these two endeavors.
Our scavenging efforts from the the battle over Venus are finished and the remaining junk will be sent into the sun
after mercury's orbit takes it out of the suggested orbital pathe of the junk.
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The ESR is happy with it's military strength. Although we have an ongoing project to constantly update the technology on
spacecraft, aircraft and to update each soldier's equipment as new technology becomes available.
The ESR navy will therefore be a medium sized (in comparison), high tech and deadly openent. The ESR may buy more fighters,
these will probably be modified DGIIIs equiped with advanced homing missiles.
As some of you may know the ESR is equiped with a large stockpile of deadly inperplanetary missiles and we will not hesitate
to use them.
The ESR is a fully equiped and ready to defend against any attack made on it.
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to venus:
you may want to buy some of our ships, as a sign of good will, we are selling them for you at really cheap price
just to be nice :)
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### TRANSMISSION BEGINS ###
Origin: Low Earth Orbit, the europe-class command ship "centurion"
To: All states
The time has come to make our plans come true.
* Transmission shows low quality vide from the outboard camera showing few drednaughts orbiting near the command ship *
We begin blockade on Earth. Any ship trying to get through will be destroyed without warning.
We're giving Earth two days to surrender to us. A giant particle cannon on the moon is prepared, ready to fry biggest cities
on Earth. Their forces are no longer superior and the planet is weakened after the Big War.
Other nations' embassadors are allowed to evacuate after proving their identity.
### TRANSMISSION ENDS ###
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hummm... i help she_da_lier, or attack him? you'll need help if ever every nations attack you, and i could use a little
part of earth
we are on your side she, but will not send ships before the green light, i dont want your fleet shooting us down...
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Alright, I can accept your help. You'll get your part of Earth.
As for other nations, I appeal to you to take no action unless you want to see cities on Earth burning including your
embassys. It's not your business. And you're quite not right, our forces are large enough to defend from attacks.
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now sending 150 ships in earth high orbit... they'll arrive in 3 hours
EDIT:SHIPS NOW IN ORBIT
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*Members of the Outer Planetary Alliance sit around the holoscreen watching the unfolding events with mild
amusement, only pausing to refill their glasses of Uranian Champagne*
:friend:
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*EARTH ORBIT*
A freighter took off from earth, claiming being venusian people.
Hearing that, a young captain, who hated venusians, opened fire on the freighter, destroying it.
still, some missed fire continued into earth atmosphere, hitting one of the city...
the city was completely destroyed, and scanners detected no survivors...
4 million people killed. The captain, was put under arrest, and will be executed.
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By the way, the FedEx battleships have been called to Earth's orbit. They're not beeing used in the blockade, but
they will be used in defence if enemy fleet arrives.
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how come everybody is with us? lol
im sure someone will try to stop us
(i hope so, i want some battles)
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http://[img]http://www.yourimagelink.com/uploads/31e80f1dcb.jpg[/img]
I wanted to put SDL ships, but in OSN diplomacy, you are only talking about deltafighters(too small)
I didnt want to put my ships, im working on better looking ones
I hope nobody attacks the blockade...
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oli_chose123 wrote:
*EARTH ORBIT*
A freighter took off from earth, claiming being venusian people.
Hearing that, a young captain, who hated venusians, opened fire on the freighter, destroying it.
still, some missed fire continued into earth atmosphere, hitting one of the city...
the city was completely destroyed, and scanners detected no survivors...
4 million people killed. The captain, was put under arrest, and will be executed.
http://[img]http://www.yourimagelink.com/uploads/4a20eaf054.jpg[/img]
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While most of the SDL fleet was in earth's blockade, some KBF stealth sabotage ships infiltrated lunar sector and
destroyed transmission arrays, one hour before heavy battleships warped in and bombarded the moon. with
dampening ships, all communications were cut off, nobody would be aware of the situation...
Battles are still raging across the sector, and KBF have an tactical advantage...
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KBF mercurian reffited corvette bombing luna with high-yield thermonuclear torpedoes
http://[img]http://www.yourimagelink.com/uploads/80e7a17ac5.jpg[/img]
at least some action!!!
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Hehe, I just noticed the date on that orbiter screenshot. 1965! :badsmile:
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Hey oli, the explosions are too big ;)
My drednaughts are preseted in the previous thread. I can email the addon if you want to take nice shots.
***
An orbiting freighter's pilot has noticed what's happening and immediately called the fleet over Earth.
Onboard "Centurion":
-WHAT are they DOING?
A terrified general floats into the command room
-They ss.. striked us with ther.. mo.. nuclear torpedoes. A fre.. freighter, who's pilot nottt.. iced the attacking ship
repo.. reported th.. that it was KBF's stealth ship.
-So we'll make sure it hurts them harder. Send Agamemnons to Kuipier Belt.
-Yes, sir.
-... and engage barbecue day.
-Yes, sir.
***
Few minutes later the "Barbecue Day" is engaged frying large Earth's cities together with KBF's bases.
(http://strony.aster.pl/she_da_lier/lunar-cannon.jpg)
(Yikes, I like gimp's flare effect :))
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cool for your ships(oli_chose123@hotmail.com)
if there is going to have a war, i better have every ships
and also, we are talking about thermonuclear devices, the explosions are the same as they would be on earth, except that the moon is smaller.
Jsut want to know, you send all of your fleet to kuiper belt? or at the moon?
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ok ok, ill set the good date... lol
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jsut a quesiton, is there any asteroid belt suitable enough to take screenies???
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No not whole fleet, just the Agamemnons.
You've got email.
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The agamemnons warped out near the kuiper belt, then hundreds of automatic sweep mines acctivated, starting
exploding and shooting at the targets. heavily Damaged, the agamemnons were overwhelmed.
"Now, leave the sector or be destroyed"
Post Edited ( 05-15-05 16:00 )
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***
3 Agamemnons fired 2 powerful thermonuclear torpedoes each, turned backed and warped heading for earth.
5 asteroids were crushed into parts, flying in all directions and causing horrible damage to bases located on nearby astroids.
Meantime, the Barbecue Day destroyed the capital of Asia.
***
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Interceptor ships followed agamemnons into lightspeed, trying to shoot them down, but weapons arent useful at
these speeds :)
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***
Agamemnons stopped from the warp speed in the centre of blockade followed by interceptor ships.
Nearby drednaughts opened fire, causing damage to the followers.
...
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Mercurian fleet at the blockade headed for the moon sector and engaged every SDL ships
http://[img]http://www.yourimagelink.com/uploads/b3e4bc3bb9.jpg[/img]
After several hours of battle, one ship made it to the moon orbit and fired at the cannon
http://[img]http://www.yourimagelink.com/uploads/0d6d9df18c.jpg[/img]
Some ships armed with thermonuclear weapons were in lunar orbit:
"To all ships, surrender or we will open fire on all major cities, missed shots will still kill thousands of people..."
During this time, KBF ships were dramaticaly loosing, but inflicted considerable damages
http://[img]http://www.yourimagelink.com/uploads/bc3f88a74d.jpg[/img]
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A lot of KBF ships warped in the earth sector, engaging the blockade, and stoping any ships ffrom heading to the
moon...
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only pausing to refill their glasses of Uranian Champagne
1> I wouldn't drink anything that came from Uranus. :)
2> Since when did we have warp?
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After hours of fight an omnidirectional tranmission from Earth's surface is received.
Governors of all continents gather on quickly organised summit.
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We don't want any more killed people nor ruined cities.
We surrender Earth to SDL Space Enterprise. Please stop the combat.
A superior Earth's fleet is launched to keep the peace.
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With superior ;) fleet in Earth's orbit the victory is only thing of time.
Most of SDL's ships are sent to moon while fleets in Earth orbit take
serious hits.
The moon's surface is mostly holed, most of the mining stations were lost.
Thankfuly not many people died, as there aren't many cities on the moon.
A press release from Lunar goverment will appear soon.
On the OOC, I'm planning to make a PDF containing all OSN threads for
the sake of history.
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On the OOC, I'm planning to make a PDF containing all OSN threads for
the sake of history.
I could do that with a click of a button (my dad got Adobe Acrobat 7 from his new job). :)
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(How come earth have a SUPERIOR fleet? theres not a lot of things left from the 3rd world war...)
In the command ship:
"To all remaining mercurian ships, fire on the moon and earth, eradicate all population, make every shots count, the
KBF plan will be soon there, and with this, the SDL victory will look like a defeat..."
Most of the mercurian and KBF ships fired some kind of missiles, and warped to the mercurian sector.
some minute later, 50 KBF corvettes jumped in, and fired experimental plasma based mass destruction weapons
(what a name!!! :) ), that would destroy most of the buildings, and kill the entire lunar population.
the 50 crovettes, minus every one that were shot down, (30) headed for the earth's fleet, and kamikazed......
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Bah, I thought you're on my side.
Earth has superior fleet. Read the early OSN posts.
- Your fleet would be destroyed by Earth's ships.
- How the hell KBF and you have so many ships, you're new nations.
- 50 corvettes on 400 drednoughts and 3 Agamemnons? Little chance.
- There is nearly no population on Moon as I said before.
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Yup, rule #10:
"10. For the sake of (un)realism as well as historical reasons (WWIII and such) Earth shall be excluded as a
possible initial domain, meaning none of us can claim Earth by default. I am not saying we cannot conquer it later on.
But for now let us consider it neutral territory, accessible to all, claimable by none. In effect this means, we can all
come and go to Earth as we please and also set up bases on Earth itself, engange in trade, diplomacy and other
peaceful activities, but cannot engage in any kind of military activities up to an altitude of 100.000 km above surface.
Think of it as it there is some SUPREME force preventing us from claiming Earth... "
Heh, the rules are kind of vague about whether or not you can conquer Earth. That's because I tried to reserve Earth
as "orbiter" domain, meaning it remains free and noone's. Besides noone represents Earth for talks or decision. I
have no idea how to solve it.
If SDL somehow manages to destroy the SUPREME force and conquers Earth than we will ALL attack him, because we
ALL want Earth. If his attack fails, and his battle fleet is decimated, hehe, we will again ALL attack him, because he
lives on Moon, which is a VERY good forward base to attack Earth. So SDL you've just opened up a can of worms :)
Good luck to ya.
*Mars HQ is gathered in the War Room, sitting around crunching chips and waiting for Earth to obliterate SDL's
invasion fleet.*
President DocHoliday makes a gesture and calmly says: "Unlock ordnance and await my my command. Notify FedEx
fleet in Earth orbit they are ordered to raise orbit to 200.000km. They may return to Mars or stand by there, it is all
the same to me, until President MadMike returns. The fleet admiral is also reprimanded for following SDL's orders
without consulting me, as I am authorised to protect FedEx's interests while President MadMike's is away. Under no
circumstance may they go below 100.000km unless ordered so by GSI. If they value their lives that is.... Send it."
:)
OOC remark: No seriously, I just don't have time to engage in posting wars :) Not to mention to fool around in
Photoshop... But you guys go ahead.
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Doc, are you reading the posts?
My strategy is based on terror, not on supreme forces.
More than this, Earth has already surrendered, which means that now I have the supreme force, hahahahaha
* a hawk is heard in the com room *
Ehm, ok...
As for FedEx's fleet, I remind you:
to SLD
Please take care of FedExIII interests regarding Freight Services proposed by other companys and also
ITG, we agree with anything you do in this respect, and you can call on the 4 Agememnon Battle ships to support
you if required
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so, in fact, KBF and me were the good guy in this?
We had a lot of ships because they're cheap!!!
like tie fighters in star wars, or raiders in babylon 5
one other thing, how come there's no population on the moon, i mean, with all the radiations we launched, there's surely
NOBODY left alive, and youve only got your ship's crew to rebuild.... and earth people.........
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TO: SDL
Well, YOU said Earth surrendered. Not EARTH! Noone represents Earth here, so you cannot just make it up :)
Also, I don't see how your activities are even REMOTELY connected to "FedExIII interests regarding Freight Services proposed
by other companys and also ITG". You are abusing your powers, you invaded Earth and used FedEx vessels to protect YOUR
interests (your invasion fleet) alone. I am sure severe reprecussions will follow. You did not even state any terms or
conditions you want, you just layed destruction...
You are a terrorist and for all I care incidents on Venus were your doing as well and GSI from now on regards you as a bunch
of pirates and you are to be obliterated from Solar system wherever your ships are met. Trading or military, peaceful or not.
GSI will fire upon you, until you pack your bags and crawl back to the Moon. I call upon other nations to do the same.
Not to mention Moon is destroyed and all you have is your precious fleet and those who will follow you on Earth. You have
nothing to gain, everything to lose.
"Admiral, activate full power. You may fire when ready."
On the Mars moon Phobos movement is noticed as various hatches open and instrumentation begins to appear. Among others a
large parabolic emittor is revealed. Ion beam cannon.. Turning to point across the space straight towards the command ship
Centurion. Low humming, rumbling noises are heard in the War room, pitching up as the weapon charges up.
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Well, most of SDLSE people live in space.
We're settling on Earth from now. The mining stations on the moon will be rebuild later.
Our and Earth's fleet is patrolling the orbit until situation gets stable.
We will leave in peace since now, but our enemies won't be forgotten.
And no, we aren't terrorists. It's war, and in war and love everything is allowed :)
Costs of battle will be returned to FedExIII of course. We're also continuing freight
services in the solar system, but the freighters will be escorted by heavy military ships.
By the way, we needed a little war, didn't we? We got some action in here after all :)
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Emm yeah, only now YOU have the claim on Earth. I'm sure if guys had more time, we'd kick your arse :)
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with all the damages inflicted to our fleet, it will take some time before we can fight again, and with the events,
mercurian security is our primary goal.
Because our ships are cheap, all the money is put in weaponry, and our scientists are creating new biological
weapons against humans cells...I just hope the conflict ends before any of those are used...
Mercury will stop any attacks against SLD, we are not in a position to fight anymore.
With the lost of all of our crews... hitting the 500,000 the moral has dropped in our surviving troops...
Shipyards are still on full use... since a fleet is needed for mercury's defence...
we need resources.........
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Venus isn't interested in fighting, but does find it interesting that GSI is now taking action against one of the SDL-
FEDEX duo.
The problems I had with the martian corporation was the apparent desire to rule everything in its domain (of
shipping)
I didn't like this idea, and GSI sat still, so now that they don't like this SDL idea of someone trying to have a complete
control over the domain of earth, I think I'll just sit back and play "politically correct" for the moment.
ah. life is sweetest at these moments. :)
(be careful doc, they might 'embargo' you. *snicker*)
Post Edited ( 05-17-05 18:24 )
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And just to inform you, if someone tries to conquer Earth, we'll be ready to use burnt earth (what a
coincidence :)) tactic, leaving some powerful biological weapon behind us. We hope that this will keep you calm, or at
least think twice befor attacking us.
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To all Nations
From MadMike
onboard FedEx001 (Explorer1)
<Outer Rim Worlds>
SDL has never had permission to engage our ships/personel or any other facility in hostile actions
they had only permission to watch our interests in Freight Services and ITG matters
GSI have the right to use all FedExII resorces
I deplore the action taken by SDL against Earth and would never agreed to this
All FedExIII ships have recived orders to return to Mars Orbit and await instructions from me or GSI Govenment
All Comanders/Captains of FedEx ships that responded to SDL's Call have been arrested, the fleet Admiral will be
executed without trial, the 2nd Officer on all ships have taken command.
The FedExIII pesonal on Mars are now fitting out all available craft that can carry arms, we dont wish to be envolved
in a war situation but we will not standby and see every thing we have worked for destroyed
end message
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To SDL
we find your actions against Earth dispicable, we would never agree to this kind of action
we ask you to withdraw your forces from Earth and stop all action there
we ask you to appear in person to the Solar Council to answer for you actions and accept their judgment
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As of now we withdraw from the ITG, we can not work with people we can not trust
As of now we impose an embargo against you, you will recive no assistance from FedExIII in any respect
All SDL freights at the moment in FedEx ships are forfit
All SDL ships now docked at FedEx facilitys are under arrest, and will remain so untill you withdraw from Earth
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To GSI
All FedExIII ships when returned to Mars Orbit will come under you command untill I get back to Mars
They can be used for defence purposes, or to take action against SDL if they refuse to withdraw from Earth
They can can not be used in hostile action against other nations unless there is a threat against Mars
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We call on the Solar Nations to bring DL to justice
We call on all nations to empose a trade embrgo against SDL
We call on all nations to take all action to remove SDL influence from Earth
We call on all nations to redouble their efforts in aid with the rebuilding of Earth's facilitys
We call on all nations to discuss and set up a Earth Defence Council and to supply ships to patrol and defend Earth
from further attacks like that of SDL
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We hope that this madness is now at an end
MadMike
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Ooh... you hear that doc?
I do..
I'll sing it. (to the tune of mozart's Eine kleine Nachtmusik)
"SDL wants earth so very bad. SDL wants earth so very bad.
Whateeeeeveeeer shall we do? Whatever we should try.. It will not work so well..
Becaaaause someone's so stubborn and will not quit until he wins!
And he threatens, to dump, bad stuff, on earth if we win.
Oh, I, can hear something, war tribunal, with a certain moon person's name, on it!
Oh my~, I think it just happened right now-ow, right now-ow, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!
whoa whoa whoa whoa! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
hooo~, It's not over!
hooo~, he'll just....
hooo~, it's just too much!"
That's about as far as I wanted to with this. enjoy! :)
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humm... now you know why i think venusians are stupid? lol j/k
Earth Sector, homeworld
21:30 GMT
In a building...
Man 1:"We ca nwe do? If we get out, we could be arrested, SDL troops arrest any non-terran people!"
Man 2:"We can get a ship, i hear the nearest launch station is not heavily garded"
Man 3:"What are you two talking about, the last message we received was about biological weapons ready to
detonate in case SDL looses earth... We must find if this is true."
Man 1:"add Sabotaging it? We are all going to die..."
Man 3:"sabotaging would be too risky... The computer says the logical position for normal biological weapons would
be at these 40 locations..."
Man 2:"Ok, ok. We check all ofthem and get back for dinner??? These positions are all on different continents!!"
Man 3:"We'll at least check one...... Let's go..."
After hours of secret transport, the tree spys infiltrated the building and got to the weapon...
Man 1:"Oh my god! This weapon can take out Europe within seconds!!!"
Man 2:"You are exagerating, no more the THE ENTIRE PLANET!!!"
Man 3"Will you two stop jocking?We need to desactivate it?"
Man 2:"Wouldn't it alert SDL and they would take out the others?"
Man 3:"It's a risk to take..."
Man 1:"They are just terrans, we do we help them? we were here to kill the ambassadors."
Man 3:"Will you two shut up? the conversation could be recorded..."
Man 2:"We can detonate it. It will kill us, but SDL will be hated and destroyed..."
Man 3:"I've got a wife. I'm not going to do this."
Man 1:"Ok, its diseabled..."
Man 3:"WHAT???"
Man 2:"You know you could have killed us all???
Man 1:"Oh shut up, these weapons cost a lot, and are difficult to build, without this piece, it will not detonate."
Man 3:"one done, 39 left to go..."
...
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freespace2dotcom wrote:
I'll sing it. (to the tune of mozart's "allegro")
Which allegro? He wrote loads.
Anyway, I suggest that the United Powers conduct an investigation into the legality of SDL's conquest. If found
guilty...... well, we'll decide on a verdict.
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Which allegro? He wrote loads.
whoa! 8o you aren't kidding! I'm not a muic person, so I didn't realize it.
Okay, I found the damn song. somebody should have named these classic tunes better, dammit. then EVERYBODY
would buy copies to these things, AND know the names... sheesh...
"Eine kleine Nachts Musik"
The song goes to this tune, and I'm updating the name of the mp3 I have of the song.
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OOC:
:lol:
Maybe they should give classical pieces milleniazed names. Like DJ Mozart's "Nightcap R&B".. Or
Tschaikovski's "Nutbuster, baby" or or :) emm.. Strauss' "1337 Danube space music"
heheh
ehm.. back to business.
To SDL:
So as you can see, your bluff with FedEx did not work and you've lost a valuable partner as well as considerable
freight profits. But it does not end there. You chose to abandon Moon and conquer Earth. Moon was consequently
layed waste. So you are now on Earth. Fine, so be it. You shall stay there.
*Doc makes a gesture to his Admirals to redeploy the complete FedEx fleet around Earth, as well as 80% of GSI's
fleet.*
Around the planet, perimeter you make. Nothing will excape. Train the Phobos Ion Cannon on Centurion, maintain
lock at ALL TIMES. If SDL makes any kind of move to leave Earth, destroy the ships that attempt to leave and
immediatelly terminate the Centurion. GSI henceforth joins the embargo proposed by FedEx and furthermore
maintains an active blockade around Earth. The SDL scum have polluted the planet and if nothing else the scourge
must be contained on the planet until they come to their senses, explain themselves, enter some kind of dialogue
with other Nations, so this can be resolved.
To Free:
We understand your reasons for staying out of the conflict, and although we would benefit having your active
support, given our history things are best as they are. I do feel obligated to remind you that your ancestors in the
mid-20th century held the same view when WW2 started. In 1940, only 23% of Americans believe the US should get
involved in the war... Although a completely understandable attitude it does however pathetically shatter against
your own (I believe) Lincoln's words:"Those who would be willing to let go of a few crucial liberal rights in order to
gain a little short-term security, deserve no rights at all!" So.. I place this question upon you. SDL is strong, but CAN
be contained if we act to keep him restricted on Earth. If however, he is allowed to leave the planet, he
will "submerge" strike hear and there, as he said, use terror tactics. Venus could be next (or perhaps again) their
victim. We owe it to our people's to make sure SDL answers for his crimes, explains his actions or is simply imprisoned
on Earth. Alas, we run the risk of ecological destruction, but SDL is probably not suicidal and even if he is, you have
the know-how and technology to restore Earth in no time. Some would even argue this is your main motivation for
staying out of the conflict and prefering the rest to the dirty work, while you make massive profits in terraforming, but
I chose not to subscribe to this sort of capitalist propaganda.
To All other nations:
We ask you to keep your freight shipping away from Earth as their safety cannot be guarateeed.
We ask you to consider what has happened and to prevent further such catastrophes, help us disarm SDL.
We ask you to consider the alternatives of not doing so...
We agree with the notion to set up a commitee to ascertain the legality of SDL's actions. Also to ascertain if earlier
attacks on Venus are connected to SDL as well. Our national belief is that NO CONQUEST, no OFFENSIVE WAR, no
FORWARD MOVEMENT of any army should EVER be considered legal. The only acceptable, justifiable, legal and in fact
necessary war, is defensive war.
We ask that a Solar War Crime Tribunal be established, so that SDL and any future such criminals may stand trial. GSI
will accept and subject its citizens to the Court's authority as soon as it is established. I suggest all guilt-free nations
do the same, so that the Rule of the Law, may ensure Order and Prosperity throghout the Solar system.
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Those who would be willing to let go of a few crucial liberal rights in order to gain a little short-term security,
deserve no rights at all!"
Twas ben franklin that said that.
he's on the US $100 bill. :)
Which reminds me that I haven't actually held one of those since around the time they changed them to the ugly "big
heads" series that are so prevailant nowadays.
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I agree to appear on the Solar Council (with a heavy security) to discuss on subject, but no actions will be taken until
then, in return, please withdraw your fleets from Earth's orbit until solution will be found.
People on Earth are granted to live in happyness and all governors will keep their positions. The destroyed cities are being
rebuild and additional shipyards are created.
We hope to see you on Solar Council's summit, where will it take place?
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We hope to see you on Solar Council's summit, where will it take place?
I vote for Venus.
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No.
1. You will have NO armed escort of you own. Your vessel will deactivate its engines and be towed to the location of
the meeting with proper mixed OSN military escort (believe me you will be quite safe). Terrans have died by the
hands (or weapons) of people under your command. Your attacks were unprovoked and the responsability lies solely
upon you. Until decided otherwise by the Council, you cannot be granted freedom of movement.
2. The fleet stays where it is UNTIL a solution is found. They will however step down from red alert to yellow alert.
GSI will not negotiate on this with SDL. Period. If others however see a problem with it, I am prepared to discuss
options.
Venus is fine with me. It will be good to see you again, Lord Freespace :) Perhaps you will see it fit to make another
of your famous photographs of the summit.
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freespace or me???
you just didnt know it was me? or freespace did others on other OSN topics?
cause i did the ones above
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DocHoliday wrote:
Venus is fine with me. It will be good to see you again, Lord Freespace :) Perhaps you will see it fit to make another
of your famous photographs of the summit.
consider it done, though I think in order to achieve such a glorious project as I see it in my mind, I'll need new
pictures of everybody from the last pic, as well as new pictures of our new recruits.
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oli_chose123 wrote:
freespace or me???
you just didnt know it was me? or freespace did others on other OSN topics?
cause i did the ones above
Ehrm...
doc was referring to my summit pic.
this:
(http://img154.exs.cx/img154/5355/summit0na.jpg)
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oh... then sry..... i thought i was talking about my pics
i don't think SDL will want to be judged without a fight
I'm sending a part of my fleet to the moon for immediate installation(just to be sure SLD do not come back)
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Well, If SDL is not in charge of the moon anymore, Venus is determined to engage in talks with interests to establish
a military base there.
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WHAT???
Where have I said I don't claim MY moon??
I just said we're leaving it as is until the fallout from the missiles launched by YOU falls down.
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Venus never launched any missiles.
besides, the moons' a big place.
surely the fallout was minimzed by lack of an atmosphere to carry radioactive particles, and thus still many areas must
still be inhabitable.
*psst* we'll pay for the base at a premium; 3.5 lb of gold per mile^2
we only need about 2-3 sq miles, though.
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1:These where my missiles
2:SDL, You will be judged, and arrested, so the moon is now a free for all( but i suggest we all take a small part, just
not start another war :) )
3:It's difficult to be protected against the weapon's radiations, but, as freespace said, they are not everywhere
I still suggest not to go 2 kilometers near the explosion's craters, i will not be responsible to any more deaths
4:SDL, you're loosing... hehe
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I'm losing? You're saying you're going to beat the supreme Earth fleet?
I could wipe out your fleet from Earth's orbit in no time, I'm just trying to make peace. I don't want to be the offending site this time.
How are you going to arrest me? I've got a heavy security all time. After those threats I'll rethink participating in the
summit. I may send my man after all.
Freespace: I didn't mean that they were your missiles. I was refering to all nations.
I can sell you a bit of the moon, but we can take only kilograms/tons of gold, not lb, and you will be sold km^2/ha :)
And military constructions will be under strict controll.
Post Edited ( 05-18-05 19:04 )
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An allied fleet with all nations could take out the earth's fleet...
because, ifthe earth fleet is that powerful, they would never have surendered to you...
And, if you do not surrender, one day or another, you'll be taken out
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I was thinking of something, if all of you could send a screenshot of their ships, and a bigger background history
also if we could all decide of the 3rd ww history, i could make a database
doc, if you can put flash media on the website, that would be cool, i just go a program to do this
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All right.
Since SDL is now trying to become the legit, de facto ruler of earth, (and effectively will, if nobody enforces the rules
and things continue) Consider Venus part of the 'coalition' meant to humble this person.
All we ask for from the intersolar community for this is a frikking moon base.
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Freespace, you'll got your lunar base for free for your thumbs for the conquest.
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For my "thumbs" ? :doubt:
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I meant "thumbs up" :wall:
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Even if you were to give me the whole moon, SLD, I wouldn't let you be. We all agreed beforehand that the earth
was off limits.
I'm merely lowering my price for my valued friends, whom are rule abiding, in the right, and more importantly, far more
superior in number.
I'm doing what's more in the interest of the venusian people. If you used 'terror' to capture earth, then surely there
would be nothing stopping you from doing so for the whole solar system, so I politely decline your offer
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We all agreed beforehand that the earth
was off limits.
Nah.
"...Earth shall be excluded as a
possible initial domain, meaning none of us can claim Earth by default. I am not saying we cannot conquer it later on."
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Yeah, but they just don't want you to have earth's command,
but, for a price, i would gladly evacuate any SDL troops who wants to leave earth, they will be escorted to mercury,
where they will be our guests. Im sure some of those don't want to fight anymore...
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I am not saying we cannot conquer it later on."
When did you conquer it?
All you did was say you took control of it. I don't mind you living there, but as doc said.
YOU said Earth surrendered. Not EARTH! Noone represents Earth here, so you cannot just make it up
If you don't agree with that, I fully intend to back up GSI in their efforts to detain you.
I should mention, that since you somehow didn't experience any resistance from the Earth "supreme fleet", our
combined coalition most certainly cut through it like a hot knife through butter.
If you say that earth surrendered due to 'terror" it's proof that you didn't truely conquer them. And the millions of
freedom fighters will easily rebel at the first opportunity.
If you don't desist, you face a serious war crimes tribunal. especially so if these WMDs you threaten to use are used.
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OCC:
i need a big background history of all nations, screenchots of all ships(not confidential ones) and descriptions
send aqll of it at oli_chose123@hotmail.com in a .zip
plz, that'll be cool(the flash im making)
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OOC:
Hmmm...how am I gonna get Captain Monroe into this one....need a good plot device....hmmm... *continues thinking...*
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Oli: Most of my ship's shots can be found on previous topics I suppose, but here goes a few:
Europe - class freighter
First five are untextured, I don't know how are going to get over this.
If you want, I can also send the Orbiter addon, but I don't know if I didn't lost it while deleting old version orbiter install.
http://strony.aster.pl/she_da_lier/europe/pic1.jpg
http://strony.aster.pl/she_da_lier/europe/pic2.jpg
http://strony.aster.pl/she_da_lier/europe/pic3.jpg
http://strony.aster.pl/she_da_lier/europe/pic4.jpg
http://strony.aster.pl/she_da_lier/europe/pic5.jpg
http://strony.aster.pl/she_da_lier/europe/pic6.jpg
"Fly" pod
This is a tiny manned subversion capsules able to install explosives on enemy ships while beeing undetected (for refernce
look for Bushnell's Turtle)
http://strony.aster.pl/she_da_lier/fly-pod.jpg
http://strony.aster.pl/she_da_lier/fly-pod2.jpg
http://strony.aster.pl/she_da_lier/fly-pod3.jpg
Delta figher
This one can be found on Orbit Hangar
And also mining stations
This addon haven't been finshed yet because of few problems related with new Orbiter's version.
http://strony.aster.pl/she_da_lier/mining_station.jpg
http://strony.aster.pl/she_da_lier/mining_station2.jpg
http://strony.aster.pl/she_da_lier/mining_station3.jpg
http://strony.aster.pl/she_da_lier/mining_station4.jpg
http://strony.aster.pl/she_da_lier/mining_station5.jpg
http://strony.aster.pl/she_da_lier/mining_station6.jpg
http://strony.aster.pl/she_da_lier/mining_station7.jpg
http://strony.aster.pl/she_da_lier/mining_station8.jpg
http://strony.aster.pl/she_da_lier/mining_station9.jpg
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Im bored of this, SDL , you need help for anything, i'll be on your side, because being on the other side won't bring
me anything... if you need any help... just ask
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Well, you know. Most of us have real lives that need tending to. :doubt:
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im not talking about lack of posting... it's just that i'm dont have anything to do...
Does someone could do a "What is OSN" little text?explaining what is OSN?(i can't copy the one on OSN's
website.........)
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On the ASP site I'm working on I wrote:
Orbiter Solar Nations is an RPG game using free Orbiter space flight simulator.
You can find more info on the official site.
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How can I accept your help? You are a traitor.
All you can do now is to take my side at SC summit.
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the text is not long enough
see how big it should be:
http://[img]http://www.yourimagelink.com/uploads/eb1c649f4b.jpg[/img]
also, the nations are long to make...... all 15 of them...
http://[img]http://www.yourimagelink.com/uploads/eb1c649f4b.jpg[/img]
Im not a traitor, i jsut attacked because you wanted earth , you have no right(ok ok ok, i wanted it,too........)
but, now, there is no way for me to get earth:
1)I take the moon
2)I don't take the moon
3)I takethe moon
I hate difficult choices, i choose 1?, or 3? :)
If you are not executed, or jsut want help to get out of there before being executed, then you can have the moon
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Hmm, the flash is quite good, although color scheme is not really suitable.
How about animated intro instead of description?
Let's look at it from the other side:
You wasted most of your fleet.
Mercury is a nice platform for LMC.
We need to rebuild our mining stations.
So what chose I have?
- I conquer Mercury
... or ...
- I conquer Mercury
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ok ok, i leave the moon...
for the color scheme i used star trek one(im a trekkie!!!)
what do you mean by animated intro? a video?
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SDL if you can PM me your email, i can send it to you, to take a look
It's my first flash media...
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The email is in my profile.
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A relative late-comer to the scene, looks like I did everything backwards.....did the OSN regitery first, now posting
here!;)
Faction: Coalition of Independent Moons
Short Faction Name: CIM
Leader: Xorth Tanovar
Title: Chancellor
Domain: Enceladus (capital world), Hyperion, Phoebe, Pan, Calypso, Prometheus, Pandora, Janus,
Atlas, Ymir, Tethys, Epimetheus
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Flag:
(http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data/paraflyer/196957.jpg)
History:
Exploration (and subsequent exploitation) of the smaller moons of Saturn led this loosely-combined faction to begin to
pool their resources. What was once a bunch of independent survey and mining expeditions became a group that not
only depends on each other for support and trade, but allows them the purchasing power and trade that is usually
available to the larger worlds.
The initial fleet was small, after many years the Coalition became wealthy enough to not only support additonal ore
and gas mining ships, but even contract for the building of three Cortez-class Explorer ships. The first was destined to
become a mobile factory complex that travelled between Coalition moons and built needed machinery, as well as both
orbital stations and modules for ground-based facilities. The second Explorer came into use as a drydock and repair
station, repairing smaller Coalition spacecraft as it journeyed to each member world. The third, and final, Explorer was
commissioned into immediate service as long-range courier for gas and mineral operations between the Coalition
worlds and the Inner Planets.
Once the Coalition had established it's trade and support routes, a need was seen to add a military presence to keep
pirates at bay, and to prevent the larger and more powerful governments from annexing Coalition worlds. To this
end, a deal struck with the leaders of Earth led to the construction and delivery of two Agammemnon-class
destroyers, each with full complement of Thunderbolt fighter craft. These two military assets are in a constatnt state
of readiness; one is constantly on patrol between member worlds, the other is usually located near one of the two
major military facilities within Coalition terretory (location secret, later FOIA may reveal the location to qualified
Coalition citizens).
In short, the Coalition of Independent Moons is a member-run and organized free-trade government, with both
strong financial backing and capability to protect itself.
Notes:
Contact with your local CIM Ambassador can be via standard OSN channels, or by InterplanetaryNet email
to "CIMTanovar@entermail.net"
Additional details already online at the OSN site.
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********GENERAL DISPATCH, ALL NATIONS, SOL SYSTEM***********
As of this moment, the Coalition of Independent Moons has declared a "non-welcome" policy toward SDL spacecraft.
SDL craft are not to dock at any CIM orbital station, nor land at any CIM ground facility.
Humanitarian aid will be offered to SDL assets in CIM territory; however, it is the decision of the CIM government that
all ships being rendered such aid will be impounded pending formal review by CIM representatives, oversight of such
decisions to be made by independent committee, or possibly a later summit of Sol System nations.
All pending trade and diplomatic offerings from CIM to SDL are now on hold.
The Coalition regrets that SLD's recent actions regarding a blockade and invasion of Earth has led to this policy.
If a summit of all nations is to commence, then retraction will be possible pending the outcome.
********END TRANSMISSION********
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If you want to close your market, then go on.
SDLSE's ships will be leaving CIM's sector from now.
Is there any neutral world that would host Solar Council's meeting?
If not, we suggest one of the Earth's independent stations,
close to the subject of discussion :)
http://www.orbithangar.com/searchname2.cfm?sourceid=Mozilla-search&Submit2=Search&search=IGSP :)
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Oh, and please stop posting here.
There is already the 4th OSN topic.
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Doc (or Dan), you must close this obsolete thread! :)
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done ;)
Dan